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Post by Tris on Sept 18, 2016 4:33:14 GMT 10
I don't really care what was the base for Resident Evil, only what's in front of me- if you think that it's a coincidence that RE looks and plays similarily to AitD, then good for you, I suppose, but I won't belive for a moment that Mikami & co pulled out of their assess something that was introduced a couple of years before (especially considering that Mikami himself admitted that he was aware of Alone in the Dark). And just because RE is more popular doesn't make it any more original. Did I say it was an original? You mentioned it being a AITD ripoff, so I cited the obvious similarities, since you brought it up. As I've been saying, RE's mechanics though somewhat similar, (but then again, some are not really) made its name known, and that was the RE we have grown to know, kids of that era know. As what most people are thinking, this is by far no longer an RE. If you're to disregard RE7's similarities to a lot of games, despite it being so obvious to a lot of people, then that's your opinion, and that's that. ^ * ^
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Post by Rtoo on Sept 18, 2016 4:51:46 GMT 10
Did I say it was an original? You mentioned it being a AITD ripoff, so I cited the obvious similarities, since you brought it up. As I've been saying, RE's mechanics though somewhat similar, (but then again, some are not really) made its name known, and that was the RE we have grown to know, kids of that era know. As what most people are thinking, this is by far no longer an RE. If you're to disregard RE7's similarities to a lot of games, despite it being so obvious to a lot of people, then that's your opinion, and that's that. ^ * ^ If you show me where you can get any weapon in Amnesia/ Outlast/ P.T I'll gladly jump on the "this game is like the others" bandwagon. If not the only comparison I see is to Alien: Isolation where you could engage threats more directly with addition of stealth tactics.
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Post by Tris on Sept 18, 2016 5:04:02 GMT 10
One, that's not the only similarity(difference?) there is of course, hun. Ask around. Two, I'm really not one to make others change their opinions just 'cause they don't share my own. I just happen to have the same thoughts as most people are here. I don't need to "push" anyone out of their "balance".^^
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Post by Adngel on Sept 18, 2016 5:24:54 GMT 10
Do any of these games have guns or any form of combat? If not then these comparisons are already invalid. If we compare these games just in terms of basic presentation (that is the FPP viewpoint) we might as well return to the good 'ol times of doom and call these games doom clones. I don't really care what was the base for Resident Evil, only what's in front of me- if you think that it's a coincidence that RE looks and plays similarily to AitD, then good for you, I suppose, but I won't belive for a moment that Mikami & co pulled out of their assess something that was introduced a couple of years before (especially considering that Mikami himself admitted that he was aware of Alone in the Dark). And just because RE is more popular doesn't make it any more original. The comparison is not absurd, RE7 share a lot of features with those horror games. - The fear and scares as focus of the entertainment. - The player is in disadvantage with their enemies. - The game promote the isolation and tension. - The characters are normal people what makes easier for the player to can identify himself with them. - The pacing of these games are slow. - Their progression relies in puzzles solving. - They don't doubt in make the character to suffer tortures, amputations and deaths in plot, even the player character. RE7 have combat and weapons, but as told in IGN interviews and these TGS famitsu articles; there are few enemies, and these ones tend to be more stalkers enemies related with the story (as Haunting Ground) and not filler monsters (Like the RE games prior RE7), a lot of these encounters are more oriented to puzzle defeats more than shooting (like those other horror games), others segments of the games are not able to use weapons, (is not only for the Latern video, it looks like that a lot of scenes of the game will be like that). The combat in RE7 also has been handicaped erasing skills to the player, leaving just the basics ones. That combat in it will be welcome, sure, (better than nothing), but the general mood of the game looks far to be affected by it. So at the end, it's more like an Outlast "with weapons", and "that" supossing that those weapons really have an impact in the general game, because that thing about the first hours of the game you can't barely defend yourself, does not give good vibes about making it different than those other horror games...
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Post by Rtoo on Sept 18, 2016 7:04:56 GMT 10
One, that's not the only similarity(difference?) there is of course, hun. Ask around. Two, I'm really not one to make others change their opinions just 'cause they don't share my own. I just happen to have the same thoughts as most people are here. I don't need to "push" anyone out of their "balance".^^ First of all, I'm not your "hun". Secondly, while that may not be the only difference it is one that impacts gameplay on a fundamental level- it dictates how players interact with hostile npc's, and that's a major change in my book. I'm not running around saying that, say, Age of Empires is similar to Settlers just because they share the same perspective, relatively same setting or basic controls. The focus in those games is entirely different...
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Post by Frostwolf on Sept 18, 2016 7:07:40 GMT 10
I disagree with this. RE4 is praised as one of the best in the series, if not the best, for sure it lost some of the fans and the original form. It's an awesome game, but it's not a Resident Evil game anymore. As far as i know, it is Resident evil, atleast compared to the latter titles.
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Post by Tris on Sept 18, 2016 10:52:21 GMT 10
Secondly, while that may not be the only difference it is one that impacts gameplay on a fundamental level- it dictates how players interact with hostile npc's, and that's a major change in my book. I'm not running around saying that, say, Age of Empires is similar to Settlers just because they share the same perspective, relatively same setting or basic controls. The focus in those games is entirely different... (Sigh) Aaaaas I've said, your opinion. And I really don't give a damn about it. If you're so hell-bent on your ideals being heard, stop quoting me, write a page-full of essay about it, show it around. Maybe you'll see people who share the same opinions as you(booyah!).^-^
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Post by Frostwolf on Sept 18, 2016 17:42:13 GMT 10
Even if they named it "resident evil 7" atleast they could let it out of the main titles, because this one doesnt deserve to be a main title (of the series).
If you'd ask me RER2 is much "closer" to the resident evil than this one.
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Post by mechanicalpaladin on Sept 18, 2016 18:48:48 GMT 10
Even if they named it "resident evil 7" atleast they could let it out of the main titles, because this one doesnt deserve to be a main title (of the series). If you'd ask me RER2 is much "closer" to the resident evil than this one. Oh the irony!
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Post by Hen on Sept 18, 2016 19:59:19 GMT 10
To note in regards to saying its 'not resident evil'
Resident Evil, known as Biohazard (バイオハザード Baiohazādo?) in Japan, is a survival horror video game based media franchise created by Shinji Mikami and Tokuro Fujiwara[1][2] and owned by the video game company Capcom. The franchise focuses around a series of survival horror video games, but has since branched out into comic books, novels, and novelizations, sound dramas, live-action films, animated sequels to the games, and a variety of associated merchandise, such as action figures. The series' overarching plot focuses on multiple characters, and their roles in recurring outbreaks of zombies and other monsters, initially due to the release of the T-virus, but still more biological weapons over time, created mainly by the fictional Umbrella Corporation and various other organizations in later games.
The game was previously shown to contain zombies, but the whole plot of the entire game series is
'bio-weapons'
We can see in the RE7 videos that the 'family' enemies seem to be somewhat superhuman or at least not as absorbant to pain as a human would be.
The guy had his arm sawed into and hardly really reacted, one of the other members was on fire and took multiple shots and STILL walked towards the player.
Its to be assumed the game WILL have ties to bio-weaponry, and knowing Capcom we're most definitley going to be seeing some monsters.
So what we're seeing is most likely just the first layer, we barley have seen enough gameplay to assume a few things
-Sneaking will be a part of it -Weapons WILL be useable, whether or not this influences fight or flight mechanics in this game who knows. -Umbrella is referenced -Game is heavily tied to what appears to be puzzle similar to RE1, confirming they intend on going back to their roots -Game seems to push more psychological horror rather than survival horror which CAN be okay, considering it looks like ghosts and demons and all that are NOT what we're seeing in RE7 -Limited inventory -Game referenced ammunition, which can be assumed to note that their will be enough of it since mentioned to fight more than JUST the family.
So im not saying we should bash on it right away, there is hidden potential in this game, and they obviously wanted to try something new, after the failure of umbrella corps its clear we pushed onto them we WANT horror back, they will definitley deliver after their experiments with the remake sales and how badly UC did.
Im positive, I would ask everyone else at least TRY to be positive, even if you really REALLY dislike what you see
Just remember we have a choice of refunds if you dont like it, and you can always watch a YouTuber or a streamer play it and base your final thoughts that way.
Sorry long-ass wall of text. pardon my typing its bad I know, I type fast and I apologize.
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Post by Beefy Busch on Sept 18, 2016 21:04:14 GMT 10
I feel like that is what majority of us think about RE7 in terms of where its going.
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Post by Frostwolf on Sept 18, 2016 22:11:40 GMT 10
Exactly, RE0-4 are best in the series, what they released after is not resident evil anymore, i've never said they are bad (compared to RE7), but they are not resident evil.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 23:32:51 GMT 10
To note in regards to saying its 'not resident evil' All I can say is Thank You. EDIT:I also just learned from reddit that there will be save rooms WITH TYPEWRITERS AND ITEM BOXES!! This is kind of a way to see what older Resident Evil's were like (Except not really kind of..)
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Post by seda on Sept 20, 2016 12:46:39 GMT 10
this is just a gameplay 12minute almost it's in twitch and maybe you have seen it before i couldn't add twitch link so if the link doesn't work please forgive me because i used another server re7 gameplay 720p 111mb edit: 480p 63mb if it doesn't work , download it by a download manager but if you are using mobile operators ignore it it's not interesting enough to wasting charge and data just 3 gamers are playing re7 in tgs and nothing else
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