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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 25, 2014 0:54:01 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 25, 2014 0:54:01 GMT 10

For some reason, some costume mods that I download may have at least one of these 2 issues when your character loses their head:

* The characters head comes off fine, but it seems to have a dodgy textures of Leons original head underneath.

* The characters head comes off, but is a pure white colour

It doesn't happen with every mod, just some of them

Is there anyway I can fix this? It's a minor thing, though it annoys me a little and I'd like to fix it if I can.

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 25, 2014 1:44:46 GMT 10 deltobbi likes this

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Post by LegalSoul on Jul 25, 2014 1:44:46 GMT 10

Everything is simple.
Leon's decapitated head+hair is situated in another model file (it's not the same model file as his normal head).
His decapitated head+hair model is "xfile\em\pl00\pl000h.pmd".

Now about the issues that you've named:
1-st issue: Probably the mod author has simply forgotten to change the pl000h.pmd and it is original Leon's head. Just check that model file and put there a head and textures from the new character.

2-nd issue: Almost the same, but this time the head just has no texture in it. Again, check that pl000h.pmd and make sure that the texture is linked there.

You will need some few basic modeling knowledge to fix that.

Last Edit: Jul 25, 2014 1:46:01 GMT 10 by LegalSoul

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 25, 2014 3:53:34 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 25, 2014 3:53:34 GMT 10

Jul 25, 2014 1:44:46 GMT 10 LegalSoul said:

Everything is simple.
Leon's decapitated head+hair is situated in another model file (it's not the same model file as his normal head).
His decapitated head+hair model is "xfile\em\pl00\pl000h.pmd".

Now about the issues that you've named:
1-st issue: Probably the mod author has simply forgotten to change the pl000h.pmd and it is original Leon's head. Just check that model file and put there a head and textures from the new character.

2-nd issue: Almost the same, but this time the head just has no texture in it. Again, check that pl000h.pmd and make sure that the texture is linked there.

You will need some few basic modeling knowledge to fix that.

Thanks for the reply.

I'm not sure that I have been clear enough on the first issue though.

The head comes off fine, and it's the same head as the character who has just lost it. But still on the body, is a messed up model of Leons head.

I'm not at all knowledgeable about modelling things. But I've been messing around with some characters by switching some of their files around in the folders and changing their names (so they match the right name to work in a different costume slot. For example downloading a costume for Ada Merc, and then changing the folder and file names from pl0b to pl00 etc so that it works in the main campaign.....that is about the extent of my knowledge goes) and also using a file that has no texture so that it makes whatever you put it on invisible.

I've tested this pl000h.pmd by using a pl file that I know has an invisible texture (like ones used to remove leons scar or knife holsters in some mods) and changing it's name to pl000h.pmd. All that seems to do is make the head that comes off invisible. The actual messed up head of leon, remains still there on the bodies shoulders.

Last Edit: Jul 25, 2014 3:55:42 GMT 10 by deltobbi

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 25, 2014 4:14:52 GMT 10 deltobbi likes this

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Post by LegalSoul on Jul 25, 2014 4:14:52 GMT 10

Jul 25, 2014 3:53:34 GMT 10 deltobbi said:

But still on the body, is a messed up model of Leons head.
The actual messed up head of leon, remains still there on the bodies shoulders.

Ah, then it's another problem.
There is Leon's head somewhere attached to the one of the body models and you need to get rid of it.
I can't tell where it is right now.

Check these:
pl00\pl000a.pmd
pl08\pl080a.pmd
they must be without heads.

If that didn't help, then tell some more information:
Is it happening with Jacket or without Jacket? With or without tactical vest?
Is this happening with standard or special costumes?

You can also upload those files somewhere (only the "pl00" folder if that happens with jacket, and if it's without jacket then pl08 as well) and I'll try to check where the problem is.

Last Edit: Jul 25, 2014 4:30:27 GMT 10 by LegalSoul

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 25, 2014 18:15:42 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 25, 2014 18:15:42 GMT 10

Jul 25, 2014 4:14:52 GMT 10 LegalSoul said:

Jul 25, 2014 3:53:34 GMT 10 deltobbi said:

But still on the body, is a messed up model of Leons head.
The actual messed up head of leon, remains still there on the bodies shoulders.

Ah, then it's another problem.
There is Leon's head somewhere attached to the one of the body models and you need to get rid of it.
I can't tell where it is right now.

Check these:
pl00\pl000a.pmd
pl08\pl080a.pmd
they must be without heads.

If that didn't help, then tell some more information:
Is it happening with Jacket or without Jacket? With or without tactical vest?
Is this happening with standard or special costumes?

You can also upload those files somewhere (only the "pl00" folder if that happens with jacket, and if it's without jacket then pl08 as well) and I'll try to check where the problem is.

It's happening with:

Jill Pack from Dr Emuler (though on this one, Jills head seems to come off, and also stays on the shoulders) - www.mediafire.com/download/kdcht4qw066g3g9/JillCostumes.exe
Ada Main Game Pack from Dr Emuler (head comes off, messed up Leon head shows up on shoulders) - z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=22362
Ada Higher Res Pack, again from Dr Emuler (same issue as the other Ada IIRC) - z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=22364

So it seems to be just his mods that's I'm having the issue with.

It happens both at the village at the start of the game. And in Mercs mode. I haven't tested it on the Special costume sets cause tbh, I'm not really a fan of them. Haven't tested it with the tactical vest either. I'll give that a look this morning

EDIT: Just tested it with Tactical vest, same thing happens

EDIT 2: Interesting. I've been messing around switching heads between some mods (the pl000b,c,d and h files). Like moving a head that does work fine for decapitation, and moving it to one of the offending mods above. I still got the glitch, which suggests the problem is with the mods Attire, rather than the head. Or maybe the problem file is still there

Last Edit: Jul 25, 2014 20:18:07 GMT 10 by deltobbi

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 26, 2014 0:16:45 GMT 10 deltobbi likes this

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Post by LegalSoul on Jul 26, 2014 0:16:45 GMT 10

Alright, firstly some things, that you need for decapitation to work properly (actually these are a bit optional, but this is one of possible variations).

-pl000a.pmd should be a body without a head.
-pl000b.pmd should have a head in it.
-pl000c.pmd should be an absolutely empty file (originally it has Leon's face, but people usually combine it with pl000b.pmd and leave this file empty).
-pl000d.pmd should have hair in it.
-pl000e.pmd should be empty file (it's originally Leon's Jacket).
-pl000h.pmd should have a head+hair in it (these will fly away after the decapitation).

Process:
Decapitation happens -----> pl000a.pmd file stays where it was ----> pl000b.pmd and pl000c.pmd and pl000d.pmd disappear ----> pl000h.pmd appears and flies away.

That's all.

Now about the links:

1. Jill.
pl000a.pmd file is a body with head in this mod.
But it must be without head.
When a decapitation happens the pl000h.pmd appears and acts like it should while the whole pl000a.pmd file stays at it's place.

Solution:
You simply need to cut head and hair off this pl000a.pmd model. And then transfer the head and hair to pl000b.pmd.
That not very hard but still needs some few modeling and rigging, so it's not a one-mouse-click fix.
I did it roughly in 2 minutes, it may have some smoothing problem, I just don't have much time to make a perfect fix, so just showing you the meaning.
You may check these 2 files (pl000a.pmd - decapitated body, and pl000b.pmd - the file, where head was transfered) here: www.mediafire.com/download/bxzo6arg526tqw3/fixes.rar
Same thing with pl08 and pl09 folders - replace only the body files.

Don't forget to use this list of character models, it's handy z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=13164

2. Ada.
This one is a lot more simple.
This time pl000a.pmd is Okay, it is without head.
But, pl000e.pmd has the head in it. And pl000e.pmd originally is supposed to have Leon's Jacket, so obviously it doesn't disappear after decapitation and stays where it was. We need this file to be empty while the pl000b.pmd (which is empty now) must have the head.

Solution:
Swap pl000e.pmd and pl000b.pmd.
For both mods.

In that mod where the head comes off white, you just need to copy eida-hair.tga and ada-face.tga from pl0b into the pl00 folder, and also rename ada-face.tga to ada-face_s.tga, seems strange but pl000h.pmd has links to those textures.

You should use some program to view the models at least, cause without it is hard to do anything with them.

Last Edit: Jul 26, 2014 0:48:44 GMT 10 by LegalSoul

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 26, 2014 2:38:39 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 26, 2014 2:38:39 GMT 10

Jul 26, 2014 0:16:45 GMT 10 LegalSoul said:

Alright, firstly some things, that you need for decapitation to work properly (actually these are a bit optional, but this is one of possible variations).

-pl000a.pmd should be a body without a head.
-pl000b.pmd should have a head in it.
-pl000c.pmd should be an absolutely empty file (originally it has Leon's face, but people usually combine it with pl000b.pmd and leave this file empty).
-pl000d.pmd should have hair in it.
-pl000e.pmd should be empty file (it's originally Leon's Jacket).
-pl000h.pmd should have a head+hair in it (these will fly away after the decapitation).

Process:
Decapitation happens -----> pl000a.pmd file stays where it was ----> pl000b.pmd and pl000c.pmd and pl000d.pmd disappear ----> pl000h.pmd appears and flies away.

That's all.

Now about the links:

1. Jill.
pl000a.pmd file is a body with head in this mod.
But it must be without head.
When a decapitation happens the pl000h.pmd appears and acts like it should while the whole pl000a.pmd file stays at it's place.

Solution:
You simply need to cut head and hair off this pl000a.pmd model. And then transfer the head and hair to pl000b.pmd.
That not very hard but still needs some few modeling and rigging, so it's not a one-mouse-click fix.
I did it roughly in 2 minutes, it may have some smoothing problem, I just don't have much time to make a perfect fix, so just showing you the meaning.
You may check these 2 files (pl000a.pmd - decapitated body, and pl000b.pmd - the file, where head was transfered) here: www.mediafire.com/download/bxzo6arg526tqw3/fixes.rar
Same thing with pl08 and pl09 folders - replace only the body files.

Don't forget to use this list of character models, it's handy z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=13164

2. Ada.
This one is a lot more simple.
This time pl000a.pmd is Okay, it is without head.
But, pl000e.pmd has the head in it. And pl000e.pmd originally is supposed to have Leon's Jacket, so obviously it doesn't disappear after decapitation and stays where it was. We need this file to be empty while the pl000b.pmd (which is empty now) must have the head.

Solution:
Swap pl000e.pmd and pl000b.pmd.
For both mods.

In that mod where the head comes off white, you just need to copy eida-hair.tga and ada-face.tga from pl0b into the pl00 folder, and also rename ada-face.tga to ada-face_s.tga, seems strange but pl000h.pmd has links to those textures.

You should use some program to view the models at least, cause without it is hard to do anything with them.

Thanks for the link

That's fixed the Jill one.

I've tried switching the pl000e and b around for the Ada ones. Haven't had any luck. Even tried copying them into the pl08 folder and changing the names to suit, still no joy.

I've tried to fix the white head one as well, but no luck with it.

Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but I don't think so. I got a PMD viewer to try and make sense of it but it's not really helping

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 26, 2014 5:40:19 GMT 10 deltobbi likes this

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Post by LegalSoul on Jul 26, 2014 5:40:19 GMT 10

Jul 26, 2014 2:38:39 GMT 10 deltobbi said:

I've tried switching the pl000e and b around for the Ada ones. Haven't had any luck. Even tried copying them into the pl08 folder and changing the names to suit, still no joy.

I've tried to fix the white head one as well, but no luck with it.

Hmm, I just have no idea why the swapping didn't help you, cause it must help.

Look, I simply swapped pl000e with the pl000b, so now pl000e is an empty file, but pl000b is the head.
The result:

Did the same with the other Ada.
And also added ada_face_s.tga and eida_hair.tga to the pl00 folder from the folder next to it. And it's not white anymore.
The result:

The link with swapped files...
www.mediafire.com/download/33h90cdwi2lh3da/fixes_ada.rar

Omg, too many decapitations for a single day

Last Edit: Jul 26, 2014 5:41:29 GMT 10 by LegalSoul

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 26, 2014 6:20:50 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 26, 2014 6:20:50 GMT 10

Thanks again.

That's solved it for campaign as far as leon with jacket goes. But I'm still getting the issue in mercs with leon (with the ada replacers) and IIRC that is the model the campaign uses when Leon loses his jacket in the story.

So won't the glitch just come back again later on? (once it starts using the pl08 model in campaign).

I tried copying the files you gave me to the pl08 and changing their names to pl080.e and pl080.b and hoped it would work, but when I tested it in merc mode, the issue is still there.

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Decapitation Glitch on the old game? Jul 26, 2014 18:49:22 GMT 10

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Post by deltobbi on Jul 26, 2014 18:49:22 GMT 10

Jul 26, 2014 16:41:52 GMT 10 LegalSoul said:

Well, just read carefully again that characters list that I gave before
z6.invisionfree.com/Resident_Evil_4_PC/index.php?showtopic=13164
and you should understand everything.

Thanks for all the help. Worked out the issue this morning. It was the pl080.f file that was the issue, the model viewer showed that it had a head texture, when it should be a knife holder texture. I guess the mod maker did that to make the knife invisible, but it created that decapitation issue.

Anyway, simply replacing the pl080.f file with a blank file solved the problem. Now no creepy deformed leon head showing up in my game.