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Post by Doze_D on Apr 12, 2020 2:03:37 GMT 10
That's a really nice project! I didn't realize it at first, but the downtown area isn't that small after all. It feels small because from the moment Jill creates a diversion in the subway station, it's mostly corridors. But if you take into account the whole thing, ie. the subway station, the commercial district, the power plant, the sewers, the construction site, the Kendo gunshop street, the gas station and the alleyways in between, it's a pretty big setting! Some people complained that the map would be too small for a Mercenaries mode, but I don't agree. All they need to do is remove what's blocking the streets because most of these areas are connected.Well that's the problem right there: the gaming area is big, but they're separated into their own sections, you cannot freely roam to all of them. For example, you can only access the Kendo street after the rooftop fight with Nemi, and you can't go anywhere else, despite there is roads between the areas. Same thing with the gas station, which is even more obscure that how Carlos managed to move all of that shit out of the way so quickly.
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Post by GabrielGeog on Apr 12, 2020 16:13:17 GMT 10
That's a really nice project! I didn't realize it at first, but the downtown area isn't that small after all. It feels small because from the moment Jill creates a diversion in the subway station, it's mostly corridors. But if you take into account the whole thing, ie. the subway station, the commercial district, the power plant, the sewers, the construction site, the Kendo gunshop street, the gas station and the alleyways in between, it's a pretty big setting! Some people complained that the map would be too small for a Mercenaries mode, but I don't agree. All they need to do is remove what's blocking the streets because most of these areas are connected.Well that's the problem right there: the gaming area is big, but they're separated into their own sections, you cannot freely roam to all of them. For example, you can only access the Kendo street after the rooftop fight with Nemi, and you can't go anywhere else, despite there is roads between the areas. Same thing with the gas station, which is even more obscure that how Carlos managed to move all of that shit out of the way so quickly. Exactly. If we could create connections between all the city areas with a mod...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2020 23:35:36 GMT 10
Well that's the problem right there: the gaming area is big, but they're separated into their own sections, you cannot freely roam to all of them. For example, you can only access the Kendo street after the rooftop fight with Nemi, and you can't go anywhere else, despite there is roads between the areas. Same thing with the gas station, which is even more obscure that how Carlos managed to move all of that shit out of the way so quickly.
Yeah I know what you mean, but I was only talking about the area if Mercenaries/Operation Mad Jackal was to return: I think it'd be possible for the developpers to remove some of the barricades like cars, boxes etc. to make the whole downtown area more open. You could have survivors to save at the gas station, at the top of the construction site, in the sewers, some of the shops from the demo area, the substation, the gunshop... That's quite a few places! I'm secretely hoping that mode will come back as a free update, but it's very unlikely 
Anyway, I'll be keeping an eye on that mod  I wish I could help, but I hope modders will figure out how to make that area more open while adding some new stuff like items, notes and some of the least common enemies like Lickers, Hunters or Drain Deimos (though their AI seems to be tied to the substation part, don't know if it'd be possible to put them elsewhere...)
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Post by jillvalentine09 on Apr 15, 2020 15:06:27 GMT 10
if you could make just moset the plalice station open with enimes puzzles locked doors for jill win you get there that would make the game somuch better this is just what the game needs even make it were you can go back to the guy that locks him self in the storge box at the beging add a few items and zombies there game would go from a 4/10 to 8/10
I would donate to that mod
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Post by gotian on Apr 17, 2020 11:10:37 GMT 10
Can you remove the gate to the RPD garage? Hopefully its explorable since they used the garage from RE2
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Post by reiko26 on Apr 17, 2020 14:15:42 GMT 10
Can you remove the gate to the RPD garage? Hopefully its explorable since they used the garage from RE2 removing the gate is pointless bc it goes dark inside and the whole stage inside isnt loaded. as if capcom's 2M team deleted the textures and collisions
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Post by gotian on Apr 18, 2020 1:48:25 GMT 10
Can you remove the gate to the RPD garage? Hopefully its explorable since they used the garage from RE2 removing the gate is pointless bc it goes dark inside and the whole stage inside isnt loaded. as if capcom's 2M team deleted the textures and collisions well that was stupid, so we can look inside but if you actually go in with the character it gets unloaded?
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Post by fno on Apr 18, 2020 2:59:00 GMT 10
removing the gate is pointless bc it goes dark inside and the whole stage inside isnt loaded. as if capcom's 2M team deleted the textures and collisions well that was stupid, so we can look inside but if you actually go in with the character it gets unloaded? Not really, the parking lot is still loaded if you get in and you can see thanks to the light from outside of gates, but you can't access anywhere else from there as the rest of the interiors of RPD are cut.And yea I think there aren't any collisions inside so it is kinda pointless.
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Post by sohaim on May 17, 2020 12:46:50 GMT 10
Hello friends, like many out there, i was super dissapointed by how exploration was replaced with setpieces, but after seeing this mod, it gave me some hope, but i have a few questions on a few topics, as we all know in the original game Jill gets the Lockpick in the RPD, in this game the location of this item is SERIOUSLY disappointing, so here comes my first question, how possible is to connect the RPD front gates to the current game map?i am fully aware that the RPD on the first map is empty, but is it possible to move the one Carlos enters? is it possible to restore the RE2R RPD in this game? if any of this is possible i would totally find some time to study modding or whatever knowledge is need to acomplish such feats, and would gradly offer my help, i feel that simply restoring the RPD and making it possible to go there and get the lockpick would add so much to the game, so how feasible is all of this?
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Post by tronvin on May 17, 2020 13:31:02 GMT 10
Hello friends, like many out there, i was super dissapointed by how exploration was replaced with setpieces, but after seeing this mod, it gave me some hope, but i have a few questions on a few topics, as we all know in the original game Jill gets the Lockpick in the RPD, in this game the location of this item is SERIOUSLY disappointing, so here comes my first question, how possible is to connect the RPD front gates to the current game map?i am fully aware that the RPD on the first map is empty, but is it possible to move the one Carlos enters? is it possible to restore the RE2R RPD in this game? if any of this is possible i would totally find some time to study modding or whatever knowledge is need to acomplish such feats, and would gradly offer my help, i feel that simply restoring the RPD and making it possible to go there and get the lockpick would add so much to the game, so how feasible is all of this? It's not possible at this time and probably ever. The RPD is only loaded in for Carlos.
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Post by sohaim on May 17, 2020 14:34:09 GMT 10
So without proper tools its not feasible? and when you say loaded, its somewhere away from the main map or they just load the RPD map alone with carlos in it?
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Post by aziank on May 17, 2020 14:54:01 GMT 10
So without proper tools its not feasible? and when you say loaded, its somewhere away from the main map or they just load the RPD map alone with carlos in it? yeah like a map editing tool or map creation with asset placements and all that fancy stuff. in order to really add any more than whats available in game you basically need the RE Game Engine, and Capcom is still using it for future games like RE8 and RE4 Remake to release it for public use... it's coded pretty well that it only loads for when playing as Carlos, every section has it's own dedicated folders/files the game reads from and load it up. it's not possible to just add sections from one to another. why in the many out of bounds videos you see on youtube shows that yes you CAN go to those areas, but there's nothing there just empty space or unfinished sections. adding in new items and enemies let alone additional areas is not 1 easy and 2 possible. i had an idea awhile back, to take the sewer from RE2 and somehow copy/paste it into RE3 somehow connecting them. jill would have a hella time fighting g mutants haha. but nope not happening...
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Post by sohaim on May 18, 2020 5:14:39 GMT 10
So without proper tools its not feasible? and when you say loaded, its somewhere away from the main map or they just load the RPD map alone with carlos in it? yeah like a map editing tool or map creation with asset placements and all that fancy stuff. in order to really add any more than whats available in game you basically need the RE Game Engine, and Capcom is still using it for future games like RE8 and RE4 Remake to release it for public use... it's coded pretty well that it only loads for when playing as Carlos, every section has it's own dedicated folders/files the game reads from and load it up. it's not possible to just add sections from one to another. why in the many out of bounds videos you see on youtube shows that yes you CAN go to those areas, but there's nothing there just empty space or unfinished sections. adding in new items and enemies let alone additional areas is not 1 easy and 2 possible. i had an idea awhile back, to take the sewer from RE2 and somehow copy/paste it into RE3 somehow connecting them. jill would have a hella time fighting g mutants haha. but nope not happening... I see... can you indicate me some material to study modding specific to this engine? my best friend is a professional coder(we studied Computer Science together before i started Eletrical Engeneering) and i am determined to see if i can find a solution to this, even if it takes years to do so, so i plan to study durinng free time and ask his help to see what can be done, and i am fully aware that it means creating some sort of tool, man this is going to be tough.
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Post by tronvin on May 18, 2020 5:35:03 GMT 10
yeah like a map editing tool or map creation with asset placements and all that fancy stuff. in order to really add any more than whats available in game you basically need the RE Game Engine, and Capcom is still using it for future games like RE8 and RE4 Remake to release it for public use... it's coded pretty well that it only loads for when playing as Carlos, every section has it's own dedicated folders/files the game reads from and load it up. it's not possible to just add sections from one to another. why in the many out of bounds videos you see on youtube shows that yes you CAN go to those areas, but there's nothing there just empty space or unfinished sections. adding in new items and enemies let alone additional areas is not 1 easy and 2 possible. i had an idea awhile back, to take the sewer from RE2 and somehow copy/paste it into RE3 somehow connecting them. jill would have a hella time fighting g mutants haha. but nope not happening... I see... can you indicate me some material to study modding specific to this engine? my best friend is a professional coder(we studied Computer Science together before i started Eletrical Engeneering) and i am determined to see if i can find a solution to this, even if it takes years to do so, so i plan to study durinng free time and ask his help to see what can be done, and i am fully aware that it means creating some sort of tool, man this is going to be tough. In the meantime, I'd suggest starting small. You're going to need to get good at hex. The modding tutorials page has the tools and lists the things we can do.
Right now, a few of us are trying to expand on the early parts of the game as you can see here in this thread.
For example, I'm trying to expand Nemesis' zones so he can enter into the subway office building where the shotgun is loaded.
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Post by sohaim on May 18, 2020 10:01:41 GMT 10
I see... can you indicate me some material to study modding specific to this engine? my best friend is a professional coder(we studied Computer Science together before i started Eletrical Engeneering) and i am determined to see if i can find a solution to this, even if it takes years to do so, so i plan to study durinng free time and ask his help to see what can be done, and i am fully aware that it means creating some sort of tool, man this is going to be tough. In the meantime, I'd suggest starting small. You're going to need to get good at hex. The modding tutorials page has the tools and lists the things we can do.
Right now, a few of us are trying to expand on the early parts of the game as you can see here in this thread.
For example, I'm trying to expand Nemesis' zones so he can enter into the subway office building where the shotgun is loaded.
Thanks, i will do my best!
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I wish I could help, but I hope modders will figure out how to make that area more open while adding some new stuff like items, notes and some of the least common enemies like Lickers, Hunters or Drain Deimos (though their AI seems to be tied to the substation part, don't know if it'd be possible to put them elsewhere...)
