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Post by Adngel on Nov 19, 2017 5:09:17 GMT 10
It´s true, the Golden Joysticks awards were yesterday! (Dammnt job that disrupts my pleasant life D: ) Well, I don´t think every future RE game will be shaped in favour of the VR. Yes, it won the VR comptetion, mainly because there are not any decent competitor, you know, in the country of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. But the whole first person view in RE has been restlessly conmdened. So I don´t see any way they could keep it revamping the entire franchise with it. (And over that, RE7 was the novelty, the next VR game will have less impact so they need to think something else). I think that other RE games will came with a more popular touch. I don´t discard that there were more Outlast types (RE8?), but I also believe that there will be more RE games in the future far away of that formula. And about the RE7 saturation, these are just its last death rattles. Tsujimoto´s son recently said: "Furthermore, we think there is substantial room for growth in the European and North American markets, which comprise 85% of the consumer market. We will aggressively launch content already popular in these markets, including Resident Evil and Street Fighter, while strengthening the global expansion of the Monster Hunter brand." www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/pdf/annual/2017/annual_2017_03.pdfSo I bet that there will come light after the RE7 tunnel. (I don´t know if in the playstation experience, but hopefully there were more (exciting) RE news along the 2018).
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Post by thatkidwhodoesstuff on Nov 20, 2017 18:07:52 GMT 10
Good lord. I'm reading through this forum after looking to mod RE7 but it seems rather unfortunate that you all don't like it. I'm new to the Resident Evil series, so maybe I can't have experienced it the same way you all did- but after finishing RE7, the moment the Steam sale went live I bought every single Resident Evil game on the store, and am looking to complete the whole series when I have the time. That's how damn good RE7 was for me. I've always been a singleplayer FPS guy- Bioshock, Half-Life, Borderlands, Fallout, Metro, etc. I love being wrapped up in a story, and I'm very comfortable with the simple first person mechanics. I'm not a fan of Outlast or Amnesia, because they have practically no gameplay, but for a newcomer like me who was initially scared off by the locked camera angles in the first few games, and not being very interested in the plots of 5 and 6, RE7 was a great introduction into the series and it's gameplay mechanics. But that's just me-- there's a few things I don't care for, of course-- the dumbing down of graphics and areas for VR, the classic little girl trope, the poor facial animations, and not quite hitting the level of character development I'd have liked to see, but in general, I loved it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2017 11:39:53 GMT 10
Good lord. I'm reading through this forum after looking to mod RE7 but it seems rather unfortunate that you all don't like it. Our hatred of it has nothing to do with the lack of mods. The game's engine isn't very mod-friendly, and Denuvo is a huge barrier too.
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Post by DarkSamus on Nov 21, 2017 18:56:13 GMT 10
I think I am one of the very few that still like RE7, mod tools would have been nice but I can live without them.
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Post by ohchris on Nov 22, 2017 5:15:46 GMT 10
Good lord. I'm reading through this forum after looking to mod RE7 but it seems rather unfortunate that you all don't like it. I'm new to the Resident Evil series, so maybe I can't have experienced it the same way you all did- but after finishing RE7, the moment the Steam sale went live I bought every single Resident Evil game on the store, and am looking to complete the whole series when I have the time. That's how damn good RE7 was for me. I've always been a singleplayer FPS guy- Bioshock, Half-Life, Borderlands, Fallout, Metro, etc. I love being wrapped up in a story, and I'm very comfortable with the simple first person mechanics. I'm not a fan of Outlast or Amnesia, because they have practically no gameplay, but for a newcomer like me who was initially scared off by the locked camera angles in the first few games, and not being very interested in the plots of 5 and 6, RE7 was a great introduction into the series and it's gameplay mechanics. But that's just me-- there's a few things I don't care for, of course-- the dumbing down of graphics and areas for VR, the classic little girl trope, the poor facial animations, and not quite hitting the level of character development I'd have liked to see, but in general, I loved it. I'm not long RE fan by myslef i started play Re 4/5/6 like 2 years ago now i play RE0 and i really love every single RE game except the last one.Well good for you that enjoy RE7 and had fun , but personally i just couldn't..like that game. I notice most Re fans can't. Game maybe is good , but this not good "Resident evil"and this is the main problem. Capcom Could called that game " Hill billy on the swamps and Shrek is love " and probably nobody would be mad about it. Personally this is why i cant like RE7: -too much Outlast/amnesia/other indie horror game vibe - -first person -game was from RE4 a third person you see character, now the main character in RE7 is ....well Ethan but it suppose to be "you" -no previous characters like leon,Chris,Ada,Rebbeca -new characters (RE7) are boring , -plot is nothing new -this is literally copy-paste Evil Dead II and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre -no continuation of the story from RE6 (it suppose to be "to be continued" but capcom just drop the subject) -too much cheap jumps scares -not really scary -they "took" too much from the other titles ,they rip off a puzzle from game Shadowmatic(2015). Original creators had to continuously justifying them self on their Twitter account.Re7/capcom fanboys harass and blackmail those people -no replay value- this is game for playing once or max twice -no Mercenaries but this is just me and ,well what can i say?! I could write more but this is not necessary.The lack of mods is well ,i guess that's because not a lot of people do like that game plus im guessing there is not a lot to mod and no Mod tool !! Anyway have a nice day [Sorry for my English]
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Post by thatkidwhodoesstuff on Nov 23, 2017 15:48:23 GMT 10
Good lord. I'm reading through this forum after looking to mod RE7 but it seems rather unfortunate that you all don't like it. Our hatred of it has nothing to do with the lack of mods. The game's engine isn't very mod-friendly, and Denuvo is a huge barrier too. Oh I know, and I never said that, I just meant that I was here because i was intending to mod RE7, not assuming that being the reason you all dislike it. I assume it's because of the dramatic departure from the rest of the series.
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Post by thatkidwhodoesstuff on Nov 23, 2017 15:53:46 GMT 10
Good lord. I'm reading through this forum after looking to mod RE7 but it seems rather unfortunate that you all don't like it. I'm new to the Resident Evil series, so maybe I can't have experienced it the same way you all did- but after finishing RE7, the moment the Steam sale went live I bought every single Resident Evil game on the store, and am looking to complete the whole series when I have the time. That's how damn good RE7 was for me. I've always been a singleplayer FPS guy- Bioshock, Half-Life, Borderlands, Fallout, Metro, etc. I love being wrapped up in a story, and I'm very comfortable with the simple first person mechanics. I'm not a fan of Outlast or Amnesia, because they have practically no gameplay, but for a newcomer like me who was initially scared off by the locked camera angles in the first few games, and not being very interested in the plots of 5 and 6, RE7 was a great introduction into the series and it's gameplay mechanics. But that's just me-- there's a few things I don't care for, of course-- the dumbing down of graphics and areas for VR, the classic little girl trope, the poor facial animations, and not quite hitting the level of character development I'd have liked to see, but in general, I loved it. I'm not long RE fan by myslef i started play Re 4/5/6 like 2 years ago now i play RE0 and i really love every single RE game except the last one.Well good for you that enjoy RE7 and had fun , but personally i just couldn't..like that game. I notice most Re fans can't. Game maybe is good , but this not good "Resident evil"and this is the main problem. Capcom Could called that game " Hill billy on the swamps and Shrek is love " and probably nobody would be mad about it. Personally this is why i cant like RE7: -too much Outlast/amnesia/other indie horror game vibe - -first person -game was from RE4 a third person you see character, now the main character in RE7 is ....well Ethan but it suppose to be "you" -no previous characters like leon,Chris,Ada,Rebbeca -new characters (RE7) are boring , -plot is nothing new -this is literally copy-paste Evil Dead II and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre -no continuation of the story from RE6 (it suppose to be "to be continued" but capcom just drop the subject) -too much cheap jumps scares -not really scary -they "took" too much from the other titles ,they rip off a puzzle from game Shadowmatic(2015). Original creators had to continuously justifying them self on their Twitter account.Re7/capcom fanboys harass and blackmail those people -no replay value- this is game for playing once or max twice -no Mercenaries but this is just me and ,well what can i say?! I could write more but this is not necessary.The lack of mods is well ,i guess that's because not a lot of people do like that game plus im guessing there is not a lot to mod and no Mod tool !! Anyway have a nice day [Sorry for my English] I could refute some of these claims, but at the end of the day it really is a personal preference thing. I just prefer this game style, but that's entirely just me. I don't doubt they will make another classic styled RES game, but I think it'd be a spinoff title, like revelations or something similar. This game received very good sales and ratings in comparison to Capcom's last 2 RES games, (although those two games still appealed to a certain demographic, which is good,) but being in a financial spot as Capcom is in, it makes sense for them to continue with this formula. After watching some interviews, though, they weren't incredibly specific on whether the next games will be in a similar style, so we will have to see.
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Post by Adngel on Nov 23, 2017 20:28:24 GMT 10
Well, it´s possible to swap models Mister T made a tool that allows some behaviour changes in the game. residentevilmodding.boards.net/thread/7450/resident-evil-7-cheat-tableFluffyQuack made a tool to extract data from the .pak files. residentevilmodding.boards.net/thread/7268/pak-tool?page=1 The modding tools are processes that require a lot of time and dedication. I see understable that people who don´t like the game, don´t throw their free time to dig on it. I think that the modding of the game must birth from the fans of that game. If you want to program any tool or script to modify the game, you are free to go on with it. Perhaps if other RE7 fans sees you, they feel encouraged to follow you.
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Post by DarkSamus on Nov 24, 2017 14:27:20 GMT 10
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Post by Adngel on Nov 27, 2017 6:49:23 GMT 10
Game Developers Conference 2017: In this topic, it was shared some pics about the presentation exposed in this video, but I´m not sure if the video itself was shared or not (It looks like it was uploaded some days ago), so here it´s the 1 hour exposition of Nakanishi in the Game Developers Conference that happened at ends of February. The presentation talked about some of the development challenges and choices that were maded for RE7. Some curious since the game development point of view, others already mentioned in multiples interviews since the TGS 2016. But well, I though it could be nice have that info in a direct record performance better than a written article by any third person. The last 20 minutes are about crowd questions.  No surprises in why I don´t like RE:7  But well, in the last 5 mins, someone does a question targeted to people like me: Did I read this previously? It doesn´t sounds new to me but well, here is reminded again that RE loved characters and adventure style is not totally doomed, but displaced on different path than the numerical installments. My fears remains about what quality will have them. RE: Rev2, Umbrella Corps and RE7 were the three with lower budget, will that extend also to every future game? included the one that will cover the "Conciously Omitted features from RE7", I have find and read a lot of references about RE games will keep being RE leaving away the RE7 thing as a paralel path, but I have not found any clue about how ambitious will they get. Will RE2: Remake set any light of hope?
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Post by Cobrastrike on Nov 27, 2017 11:38:58 GMT 10
Sorry but, RE7 is not Resident Evil. A bunch of clichés, jump scares, swearing and no likable characters. It looks like more a teen horror movie than anything else. The dlcs were very boring and, if that guy is really Chris Redfield (i still can't believe it's him), he's gone. If it was a game with other brand than Resident Evil, it'd be an average game, but as a RE long fan and from everything i saw about this game, Capcom made a huge mistake.
People complain about 5 and 6, but, to me, they are way better than this they call 7. Not to mention Eveline. Why putting a new child instead of using Natalia Korda? We all know Alex Wesker put her mind (at leat at some extent) into her body, and Natalia was very friendly, adorable and etc. Eveline is just a girl craving for attention with boring powers. I just hope Wesker is still alive (i don't believe he's actually dead as there was no body melting or exploding, just lava spreading around, so no real evidence) and comes back to take his place of the real villain of Resident Evil.
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Post by seda on Nov 27, 2017 15:04:36 GMT 10
No surprises in why I don´t like RE:7 But well, in the last 5 mins, someone does a question targeted to people like me: Did I read this previously? It doesn´t sounds new to me but well, here is reminded again that RE loved characters and adventure style is not totally doomed, but displaced on different path than the numerical installments. My fears remains about what quality will have them. RE: Rev2, Umbrella Corps and RE7 were the three with lower budget, will that extend also to every future game? included the one that will cover the "Conciously Omitted features from RE7", I have find and read a lot of references about RE games will keep being RE leaving away the RE7 thing as a paralel path, but I have not found any clue about how ambitious will they get. Will RE2: Remake set any light of hope? first of all thank you so much my dear Adngel for posting it like this (describing i mean) (because most of times i can't watch youtube cause of an issue unless i watch them by my phone) and yes i wish and i hope (albeit in my opinion they must add an alternative way ans some new extra features otherwise just new appearance can't make it a good game as a 2018 game) but you know what i realized by that answer this fact that they know nothing about the franchise at all, not even a bit and not even anything about the game making! and it seems they are not taking any lesson of their big mistakes when mikami was changing the style of the game, he knew what he wanted and what it should looks at that time but when they were making re5 they were looking at the mikami's hand! just because re4 succeeded so lets copy lets paste! and re5 succeeded too , but it fooled them very badly , because they dismissed the reason of the success they thought it hit their goal just because of action orientation style (which it wasn't) so guys lets keep it up and inject more budget to the next project : RE6 a total mess which nobody knows what is it exactly a call of duty, a resident evil or a battlefield or a tomb rider or... usually this is happening when you are just a printer and not a painter oh guys what happened?! we spent (waste) tones of money on this thing so why most of fans rather to play other games instead of this meanwhile it's already contains all of other games?! what is wrong with fans!? but unfortunately nobody told them that there is nothing wrong with fans the wrong is in your mind action wasn't the advantage of re5 and action wasn't the mistake of re6 action is just a part of a game which it's about a crisis and a disaster same about horror a good game is like a good tasty pie which all of contents are well mixed and perfectly cooked but you guys are just putting some sugar in this side of pot and some flour that side , few apple and oil on top and shaking it and then you expect a good tasty pie! not even budget is helping you when you don't have any clue that how to make a game lovely it's more depended to knowing and then budget can help you to make the game more enjoyable by using and adding more features
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 4:27:48 GMT 10
The conscious omission of familiar elements is why I hate it so much.
Complain as you will about 4/5/6/Revelations/whatever, but I can look at an hour of gameplay and go "yes, this is absolutely a Resident Evil title".
RE7? Can't do that.
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Post by Akeinu on Nov 28, 2017 15:11:57 GMT 10
i didn't pay at that game at all. I watch some youtubers playing and yeah too much way Outlast vibe !!! RE7 is pretty much kills franchise and i prefer to just pretend that game ended in RE 6. btw. RE7 wins a best VR game in Golden Joystick Awards. So next Re games gonna be VR !!!I handle it kinda the same, Rösidönt Övil 7 dont count for me, my canon is still RE 6 and not this magic fantasy stuff. I would be fine if the new RE games were detective game or even a puzzle game as long as the game is fun, takes place in the same universe and tell a RE like story, wich RE 7 does not. Games and movies cant be scary for me, so they are pointless if that is their whole premise. I just bought Dead Space in Steam sale and played it the first time and i cant believe how anyone find that game scary?. it is super boring, has almost no plot, no cutescenes and its just a boring experience. Oh buhu enemys spawn randomly behind me how scary........... if you have a mind of a 12 year old. I love Horror games for their Visuals and in RE case for the charackters, World and gameplay too, but RE 7 had nothing of it. At least Dead Space has a kinda fun gameplay, so i think i will finish it, RE 7 was not even worth the time it took watching it as a Lifestream.
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Post by seda on Nov 28, 2017 18:11:17 GMT 10
i didn't pay at that game at all. I watch some youtubers playing and yeah too much way Outlast vibe !!! RE7 is pretty much kills franchise and i prefer to just pretend that game ended in RE 6. btw. RE7 wins a best VR game in Golden Joystick Awards. So next Re games gonna be VR !!!I handle it kinda the same, Rösidönt Övil 7 dont count for me, my canon is still RE 6 and not this magic fantasy stuff. I would be fine if the new RE games were detective game or even a puzzle game as long as the game is fun, takes place in the same universe and tell a RE like story, wich RE 7 does not. Games and movies cant be scary for me, so they are pointless if that is their whole premise. I just bought Dead Space in Steam sale and played it the first time and i cant believe how anyone find that game scary?. it is super boring, has almost no plot, no cutescenes and its just a boring experience. Oh buhu enemys spawn randomly behind me how scary........... if you have a mind of a 12 year old. I love Horror games for their Visuals and in RE case for the charackters, World and gameplay too, but RE 7 had nothing of it. At least Dead Space has a kinda fun gameplay, so i think i will finish it, RE 7 was not even worth the time it took watching it as a Lifestream. exactly this is the reason that i said they know nothing about it i tried so hard for more than 1 year (and more than 100 post) since the first announce to keep the fans away of wasting their precious money to buy an unknown game as their known resident evil just because it has same title but at the end most of fans bought the game and then they realized that it's not a good re and actually not even a re in my opinion if re8 is gonna take re7 direction it's not capcom's fault! (yes! this is me who is saying that, and i know that you are disagree but please guys think about it just a little more) it's just our own fault which are letting them abuse our feels we have a proverb which says : har gerdo gerd ast vali har gerdi gerdo nist (meaning each walnut is spherical but each spherical isn't a walnut) so az must ke bar must! (meaning don't make an obvious mistake to not be regret of it at the end) just like resident evil franchise and re7, both are horror but not same thing just cause of having same title but why re7 happened? just because of their first mistake in misunderstanding the re5 sales it fooled them that fans just wanna see more action and a little of old school too which it was the reason of re6 direction and injecting more budget to it (after re5 sales) and those became the reason of re7 direction because they waste lots of money on re6 and they expected atleast 2time more sale than re5 which it didn't happened and they failed on their goal (but atleast the good thing about re5 and re6 is being a re cause of characters) so it makes them to change the direction to a cheaper one and so on mistakes after mistake just cause of misunderstanding it at the first step the sad part of their mistake is abusing our feels by using the franchise title to be sure of its sale they think: it's our own brand , our own title so we are gonna use it where ever we like, to reduce our risks but this is wrong, this is just abusing of people feels and they will repeat it again because we are letting them to do it, by buying it with that title re7 can be a good new franchise for capcom and its fans, but just as a new franchise and not a re so if re8 had same style as re7 we can not just blame capcom
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