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Post by tomas25 on Jul 3, 2015 9:50:32 GMT 10
I tried a few things and sadly nothing seemed to work. Curiously, I put in Nero's NM and MM files back in and the results were... interesting.  See the difference? There isn't any. I'm thinking our problem isn't in the NM and MM files. I think the answers are either in the MRL or the MOD files.
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Post by ZERO on Jul 3, 2015 13:22:51 GMT 10
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Post by tomas25 on Jul 3, 2015 13:30:16 GMT 10
I tried a few things and sadly nothing seemed to work. Curiously, I put in Nero's NM and MM files back in and the results were... interesting. See the difference? There isn't any. I'm thinking our problem isn't in the NM and MM files. I think the answers are either in the MRL or the MOD files. sorry to disappoint you tomas25 but that is not true. Textures has anything to do with the mod and the mrl is only a way to tell the mod what to get so it has anything to do with that problem lol. The problem is the way the MM and NM are compressed. Those tex files are compressed with a newer format of ati1 and 3dc because those formats have been around for a while and there are tools to compress them but this DMC4 SE seems to have been using new codes. If JTeghius Kittius really wants to make those files work I don't see the point lol I have a theory. Let me check if it will work and I'll let you know lol. But so far I think we are going in the right direction XD   Well, I already know what MRL files do. I modded RE6 and Revelations, before. But obviously you'd know a lot more about it than I would. I've been kinda out of touch with modding these games until recently. Still, if that's the case, why did the unedited Nero NM and MM files cause the same effect as the Rachel NM and MM? But regardless I can see you're making some nice progress with this. Looking forward to seeing if some kind of solution to both textures and models can be found. 
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Post by ZERO on Jul 3, 2015 17:28:47 GMT 10
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Post by tomas25 on Jul 3, 2015 18:56:05 GMT 10
Well, I already know what MRL files do. I modded RE6 and Revelations, before. But obviously you'd know a lot more about it than I would. I've been kinda out of touch with modding these games until recently. Still, if that's the case, why did the unedited Nero NM and MM files cause the same effect as the Rachel NM and MM? But regardless I can see you're making some nice progress with this. Looking forward to seeing if some kind of solution to both textures and models can be found. Hi mate first of all I want to apologize if I may offended you in any way lol sometimes I come to strong towards some people for obvious reasons. Second It is my pride to be called a modder because I still feel like a newbie lol but thanks to this forum for giving me the opportunity to grow as a modder now thanks to you for taking some time trying to work on the tex files lol It was a nice try to try to copy the headers but that won't work at the time of compression because of some missing commands and lines on the tools lol now the NM or normal map won't affect the mod in any big noticeable way at least not that much if looking for details now the MM it is another story if you mess with this file it won't work or it will cause the mess you see in your pics lol when you said you used the original and then Rachel's and it was the same problem it is not the case you see DMC4 SE uses files like this x.bm xx.MM xxx.NM now if you port a new model your textures will be like this Y.bm yy.MM and yyy.NM so if you modify one texture you will have to modify all 3 of them or you will have some problems but the real issue is with the MM file because it is the one that causes those dark spots in game. I am currently working on some trail and error kind of thing if this works out I will share the inffo. otherwise it will be obsolete so I won't bother lol. Thanks mate It's fine, I didn't mean for my message to seem like a retaliation of some kind. If I'm reading right, when a model is modified, aspects of the textures are modified, too? If that's the case, that's different from previous RE games. I'll try a few things on my end, see if I can figure something out.
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Post by FluffyQuack on Jul 4, 2015 21:33:27 GMT 10
sorry to disappoint you tomas25 but that is not true. Textures has anything to do with the mod and the mrl is only a way to tell the mod what to get so it has anything to do with that problem lol. The problem is the way the MM and NM are compressed. Those tex files are compressed with a newer format of ati1 and 3dc because those formats have been around for a while and there are tools to compress them but this DMC4 SE seems to have been using new codes. If JTeghius Kittius really wants to make those files work I don't see the point lol I have a theory. Let me check if it will work and I'll let you know lol. But so far I think we are going in the right direction XD I don't think they're compressed in any special way. I tried decompressing and re-compressing one of Nero's NM files, and it still worked just fine (I used nvcompress and nvdecompress from this tool set: developer.nvidia.com/gpu-accelerated-texture-compression ). I have no idea why some of these new custom NM and MM textures fail to work in the game.
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Post by Scout on Jul 5, 2015 4:04:44 GMT 10
sorry to disappoint you tomas25 but that is not true. Textures has anything to do with the mod and the mrl is only a way to tell the mod what to get so it has anything to do with that problem lol. The problem is the way the MM and NM are compressed. Those tex files are compressed with a newer format of ati1 and 3dc because those formats have been around for a while and there are tools to compress them but this DMC4 SE seems to have been using new codes. If JTeghius Kittius really wants to make those files work I don't see the point lol I have a theory. Let me check if it will work and I'll let you know lol. But so far I think we are going in the right direction XD I don't think they're compressed in any special way. I tried decompressing and re-compressing one of Nero's NM files, and it still worked just fine (I used nvcompress and nvdecompress from this tool set: developer.nvidia.com/gpu-accelerated-texture-compression). I have no idea why some of these new custom NM and MM textures fail to work in the game. Fluffy, the links dead. And yeah this is kind of a frustrating issue regarding textures.
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Post by ZERO on Jul 5, 2015 7:39:10 GMT 10
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Post by EvilLord on Jul 5, 2015 20:07:55 GMT 10
damn i missed alot of stuff where can i get my hands on the script for this so i can try it my self XD
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Jul 5, 2015 22:35:10 GMT 10
damn i missed alot of stuff where can i get my hands on the script for this so i can try it my self XD the script is not finished and not publicly available yet
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Post by EvilLord on Jul 6, 2015 0:04:14 GMT 10
damn i missed alot of stuff where can i get my hands on the script for this so i can try it my self XD the script is not finished and not publicly available yet but its available for you and others ? 
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Jul 6, 2015 0:35:21 GMT 10
the script is not finished and not publicly available yet but its available for you and others ? *img* I beta tested the script. there's till things that need to be fixed on it, and as you could see from previous posts there's still issues with the texture formats.
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Post by ZERO on Jul 7, 2015 18:10:00 GMT 10
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Post by Shigu on Jul 8, 2015 22:55:31 GMT 10
but its available for you and others ? Hi mate no need to get like this. We are beta testing this crap and it has so many details. This has many bugs that cannot be fix at the moment. Only nero and dante are completely modifiable but that is it. Then we have an issue with the textures so it is a mess right now. Calm down everything will be fine. Thanks
To be fair, I don't condone releasing broken work that people will just complain about. But I also don't condone insidious actions like these that might impair the general progress of modding the game; Having the mod only be applicable to Dante and Nero is a very minor issue, it doesn't take a genius to know how to swap the Dante/Nero model over another player before beginning the model import. So that leaves the issue of the MM texture not showing up. Well that's a major visual issue but in the grand view of a mod's progress, the MM texture really isn't the bulk of the work. So instead of holding off people's entire mod progression for such a tiny issue which honestly has nothing to do with the script you're working on, maybe you should share your progress and give other people a reason to be working on fixing this MM issue too.
Trying to handle it all by yourself for whatever reason (forum popularity maybe?) is no reason good enough for impeding the general mod progress of the game. (Even if you are doing more than anybody else around here)
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Post by KRIZALID on Jul 9, 2015 4:40:26 GMT 10
my 1th mod for Vergil 
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