OH MY GOD, A new legit model of RE4 Leon finally exists!

As far as I'm concerned, that model is not very accurate. He's wearing a regular black T shirt underneath his jacket, which is wrong because he's actually wearing a short-sleeved combat T shirt with neck-level collar. The only good things I see with this model is his jacket, gloves, and leg holster. His shirt, pants, and shoes lack definition.

Here is a high-poly model I did for Leon awhile ago.

He has his higher poly RE4 Jacket, higher poly RE4 body from RE6, and higher poly pants taken from Piers Nivans's bar costume.
Take a look



Of course, it looks flat because old RE4 engine has no support of specular and normal mapping. But in RE5, this Leon mod really shines.

Take a look at RE5 version of this RE4 Leon mod in here residentevilmodding.boards.net/thread/14659/re4-leon-sfx-voices-updated

Dude, you are getting me wrong.

One, I never said we have to use "original Leon from RE4". I know that would suck NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, because the original model sucks.

That's why I MADE a much better version of him while staying faithful to the original. Model-wise and texture-wise.
That's why I used a higher poly version of his RE4 body taken from RE6 debug files.
That's why I used Piers's cargo pants over his low poly RE4 pants.
That's why I used Blaytron's high poly jacket model instead of his original RE4 jacket model.
That's why I used his RE6 leg holster model instead of his RE4 leg holster model because the belts look like paper.

THAT, is how Leon would look like in real life, for now.

Two, I did not only "make the model's textures as high as I like". Saying that is very ignorant. 
I changed them with the higher polygon variant that has more definition than the original, while maintaining the faithfulness.

Three, Piers's pants that he wore in the bar is the same cargo pants Leon wore in RE4, and it has more polygon and higher resolution texture. The original cargo pants Leon wore in RE4 is very jagged model wise because it was very low poly due to the limitation at the time.

Four, I NEVER said I did not like his jacket. Read my original comment. I said, the only good things I like from the RE4 Leon model from DBD is his jacket, his gloves, and his leg holster. All because they look very good (model-wise and texture-wise).

His pants lack definition compared to Piers's cargo pants.
And his shoes lack definition compared to RE4 Leon's cause the DBD model's shoes simply looks flat. Leon's original shoes look very defined, because it is Magnum Combat Boots, which exists in real life.

Five, calling me a "purist" is basically nonsense. Your thread title said "legit model of RE4 Leon", while the Leon model shown isn't legit & faithful. It is more like a meshmod.

Ugly model? Of course not. It looks good. If I can change something to that model, I'd change his pants, shoes, and shirt. I'll keep the jacket, gloves, and holsters.


It's alright if you like the model, I like it as well. It just amuses me how can you say I "make the model's texture as high as I like" and say my opinion as "purist", while you can basically see the model i used for my RE4 Leon mod for RE4 and RE5 is NOT the original model.

i know is not perfect but shigo changed debug model structure to match better in re2r


www.nexusmods.com/residentevil22019/mods/353

i think if we change that shirt would be perfect. but i liked the way it is anyway.
i wonder why crapcrown never made this before since re4 is a money machine for them.

I never said I despise your opinion. Because I also like the new model.

What offended me so much was first, you said I only change the textures of the RE4 Leon Model. And, saying "no matter how high you make his textures it won't work" (I'm paraphrasing). Which is wrong, I did change the model as well. I even provided the videos and threads that show it. If you have looked carefully, the difference should be VERY noticeable compared to RE4's original model.
That's why I said that statement is ignorant. You did not know I changed the model UNTIL I explained it.

Secondly, I was offended because you called my opinion purist. THAT, is ignorant.
How hard is it to say "I respect your opinion" instead of "I respect your purist opinion" ?

THEN you get offended because I called you ignorant BECAUSE I said you called me a purist? You said ME name-calling you? YOU did it first by calling my opinion purist.
I explained everything, still you said "nothing you can do to make RE4 Leon's model work cause it's utter garbage".

Don't you realize how ignorant that sounded? (again)

RE4's original model sure will not work but the model that I built are from RE6. Updated version from RE6 debug files, with some other tweaks.

RE6 models still hold up to this day, at least the 3d model quality and not the textures (the textures can still be made better though)

As @izacky said, have you seen Shigu's RE4 mod made for RE2R? Basically same model setup that I used. It works well. Of course the diffuse textures are still original and need some touch ups. It is expected because Shigu is a model importer and not a reskinner.
But still, the 3d model DID NOT age poorly and the specular / normal mapping works well.

Also, have you seen arch's RE6 Leon China costume he tweaked and imported to RE2R? It also works very well. 

ZombieAli's Leon Tall Oaks costume ported to RE2R also works well.

Then why the hell my model "won't work" while it is the same model used by Shigu?

I don't know how dense you really are, if you watch the video and look at it, you should know IT IS NOT the original RE4 model. I already said, it is the updated version of RE4 outfit found on RE6 debug files. Much more polygon, much higher resolution textures. 
Heck, I even SAID it's not the original model. But you kept saying "original model" whatsoever. That's ignorant as fuck.

What makes a model LOOK good? The polygonal construction of model itself. The textures, including diffuse, speculars, and normal mapping. The rigging.
RE4, the 2007 ubisoft release in particular, that is shown on the video, DOES NOT support specular and normal mapping. OF COURSE it looks PS2/Gamecube quality because it IS the port of the PS2 version.

Thats why I included the link for the RE5 port of the mod, which SUPPORTS specmaps & normal mapping. 

But still, "nah its bad, original RE4 model doesn't hold up".

You "try" to sound polite but implicitly disrespecting others. I "misunderstood" you? Legitimate from CAPCOM sure but not legitimate as in faithful to the original. 

What is not correct? "Your work was good man but now it's bad, sorry just being honest. Need a lot of work blah blah blah". 

You know what? People like you are the one who make modders give up on the forum. You ask a lot of shit while try to sound like a smartass while doing nothing yourself. ANYONE can criticize. NOT EVERYONE is willing to put in the work. 

You kept saying "it's bad", "it's terrible", "it's utter garbage", blah blah blah but when provided by information, still, "nah its not good enough, still bad, sorry just being honest".

And the worst, "You can be proud but dont convince yourself it's something it's not". THAT is also rude. In fact, you are the rude being rude FIRST.


You know what? I MADE the mod. I KNOW what it's made of. YOU DO NOT know shit about it. I have the right to be convinced about what it is because I MADE it and I KNOW its value.

I started this conversation politely and civilized manner. But after all the time passes, by reading your replies AFTER I provided information I won't change my opinion that YOU ARE IGNORANT. PERIOD. I won't need to be polite with a person with victim mentality like you anymore.

If you know so much about "legitimate" things or "good mods" that fit your taste that require certain amount of retexturing and remodelling why the fuck not do it yourself and quit being an asshole?

I've been in this forum since 2014 and to be honest, I met a lot of rude people.

But you, are the worst.

I'm done here. Say whatever you want, call me childish, ignorant, prideful, etc. Call my mods not good enough, utter garbage, terrible, bad, etc. Expect no more response from me.

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