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Post by reiko26 on Oct 18, 2020 14:16:53 GMT 10
bro i can tell a major difference between the old and new. the new one looks dead on classic jill. major improvment by far. one thing i noticed is it looks like the shirt is clipping through the shoulder pad in on new jill clopse to the stars badge, or is it supposed to be like that? idk lol. but over all is amazing bro and i do hope this face works with all clothing mods for the most part.
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Post by EvilLord on Oct 19, 2020 0:44:51 GMT 10
OH MY GOD THE HAIR THE FACE I LOVE IT ALL GIMMMYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post by dddvg4 on Oct 19, 2020 6:03:59 GMT 10
I can´t wait to see what this becomes, also I have a bit of a request for you to make Jill´s RE1 Director´s Cut outfit, I think Valerie´s Rider outfit legs (from resistance) are pretty much already perfect for this, as for the top I can´t think of anything off the top of my head, but I´m sure you could figure it out. Anyway please consider! this outfit? claire classic jacket would be great and actually this is a super great idea cuz i really hate jill main costume. dddvg4 yay im glad you like it! actually i didn't touch anything from the julia mod, i used sasha's head as base preserving some of her details, i think that i really messed up in that mod and some stuff cannot be fixed (but it was one of my first facial mods anyways). i know that i once said that jill's animations are bad (and they are) but are no sooooo terrible this is a good example, my julia mod here looks like an addict to meth and my new jill here looks super pretty <3 i havent test her during all the game but this is a good sign and i have an idea of why is this, idk if anyone already noticed but compared to sasha's head the julia mod has a very tiny head and the ideal thing in facial mods is that the face needs to be closer of the bones (i learned this while i was doing leon lol) this doesn't fix animations but avoid odd moments like this. you right about the eyelids, i still need to fix that and a couple of things on 3d max, also some textures since i noticed that she still have some of sasha's features (probably because the nrm texture). I see! Now that you put them side by side, the Julia mod and new Jill mod looks like elder and younger sisters XD. They are both fitting the RE engine's art style, but one is more mature while the other one looks innocent. (Which is exactly like what you said, REmake Jill was never intended to be a faithful recreation of Julia. Capcom made her look weak/needed someone to protect on purpose. It is like what they did with Haunting Ground and other horror games in general) I can already see myself using both of your mods back and forth in the future XD. They are just both great and faithful to the source material in their own way! Love them! BTW I know I should wait for your update on the outfit before I make suggestions on it. But I kinda want to request for these really quickly XD Can you do a no gear/accessory option? Also optional tube top colors (OG RE3, UC, Resistance original)? I think your version will be the definitive Classic costume so I personally really want to see these options. Because I hope there will be 1 version looks like this CG render in RE3: I asked for optional colors because of how the "Blue" looks different across these games. I think they are all nice so I hope we can choose which one we want It is like OG: Sky blue, UC: Pale blue, Resistance: Navy blue Overall very excited to see your own take and modifications on the Resistance classic costume (also since this version is relatively new)
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Post by chiarav1 on Oct 20, 2020 18:26:27 GMT 10
this outfit? claire classic jacket would be great and actually this is a super great idea cuz i really hate jill main costume. dddvg4 yay im glad you like it! actually i didn't touch anything from the julia mod, i used sasha's head as base preserving some of her details, i think that i really messed up in that mod and some stuff cannot be fixed (but it was one of my first facial mods anyways). i know that i once said that jill's animations are bad (and they are) but are no sooooo terrible this is a good example, my julia mod here looks like an addict to meth and my new jill here looks super pretty <3 i havent test her during all the game but this is a good sign and i have an idea of why is this, idk if anyone already noticed but compared to sasha's head the julia mod has a very tiny head and the ideal thing in facial mods is that the face needs to be closer of the bones (i learned this while i was doing leon lol) this doesn't fix animations but avoid odd moments like this. you right about the eyelids, i still need to fix that and a couple of things on 3d max, also some textures since i noticed that she still have some of sasha's features (probably because the nrm texture). I see! Now that you put them side by side, the Julia mod and new Jill mod looks like elder and younger sisters XD. They are both fitting the RE engine's art style, but one is more mature while the other one looks innocent. (Which is exactly like what you said, REmake Jill was never intended to be a faithful recreation of Julia. Capcom made her look weak/needed someone to protect on purpose. It is like what they did with Haunting Ground and other horror games in general) I can already see myself using both of your mods back and forth in the future XD. They are just both great and faithful to the source material in their own way! Love them! BTW I know I should wait for your update on the outfit before I make suggestions on it. But I kinda want to request for these really quickly XD Can you do a no gear/accessory option? Also optional tube top colors (OG RE3, UC, Resistance original)? I think your version will be the definitive Classic costume so I personally really want to see these options. Because I hope there will be 1 version looks like this CG render in RE3: I asked for optional colors because of how the "Blue" looks different across these games. I think they are all nice so I hope we can choose which one we want It is like OG: Sky blue, UC: Pale blue, Resistance: Navy blue Overall very excited to see your own take and modifications on the Resistance classic costume (also since this version is relatively new) yeah... i really miss classic jill not only her face also her personality. i used to believed that jill was a male version of chris (i still love chris) but playing the classic games made me realized that i was wrong, especially in the OG 3 she has a lot of personality and thats why this new ''jill'' bother me so much, new jill is just plain and boring, the typical prototype of female characters nowadays fearless, stronger than anything, immortal... how are we gonna empathize with the character like this? but now people doesn't care too much since she's hot and it seems like that's more than enough. this same thing happened with remake 2 claire and it seems like next female characters are gonna be like this. i wonder how are they gonna handle ashley. is she gonna be stronger than leon in RE4R? anyways the julia voth mod is bad done but i really do appreciate that mod, it is super special to me since a lot of people helped me with suggestions and every suggestion made me learn something new. plus it was my first facial mod and even if this looks easy to do is not, being modder is one thing and being ''modeller'' is a whole different thing. about your request maybe , i'm not too sure how many outfits do i need to replace since i remember that for some reason this game has a lot of files for example infected jill has his own model and same with the mirror sequence. my idea with this mod is like the title say the Umbrella Chronicles jill, and maybe in the main pic is not so noticeable but i was trying to make a blue like her uc version but i failed also i forgot to mention, im making her legs more thick like her old self since i think new jill is a way too skinny. reiko26 clipping in those games are pretty common xd {Custom Spoiler} . also if anyone is wondering why she doesnt look dirt is because i'm using snipz mod to see her face more clearly.
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Post by linz on Oct 20, 2020 18:35:45 GMT 10
AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! also, will you do Carlos?
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Post by dddvg4 on Oct 26, 2020 15:51:51 GMT 10
I see! Now that you put them side by side, the Julia mod and new Jill mod looks like elder and younger sisters XD. They are both fitting the RE engine's art style, but one is more mature while the other one looks innocent. (Which is exactly like what you said, REmake Jill was never intended to be a faithful recreation of Julia. Capcom made her look weak/needed someone to protect on purpose. It is like what they did with Haunting Ground and other horror games in general) I can already see myself using both of your mods back and forth in the future XD. They are just both great and faithful to the source material in their own way! Love them! BTW I know I should wait for your update on the outfit before I make suggestions on it. But I kinda want to request for these really quickly XD Can you do a no gear/accessory option? Also optional tube top colors (OG RE3, UC, Resistance original)? I think your version will be the definitive Classic costume so I personally really want to see these options. Because I hope there will be 1 version looks like this CG render in RE3:
I asked for optional colors because of how the "Blue" looks different across these games. I think they are all nice so I hope we can choose which one we want It is like OG: Sky blue, UC: Pale blue, Resistance: Navy blue
Overall very excited to see your own take and modifications on the Resistance classic costume (also since this version is relatively new) yeah... i really miss classic jill not only her face also her personality. i used to believed that jill was a male version of chris (i still love chris) but playing the classic games made me realized that i was wrong, especially in the OG 3 she has a lot of personality and thats why this new ''jill'' bother me so much, new jill is just plain and boring, the typical prototype of female characters nowadays fearless, stronger than anything, immortal... how are we gonna empathize with the character like this? but now people doesn't care too much since she's hot and it seems like that's more than enough. this same thing happened with remake 2 claire and it seems like next female characters are gonna be like this. i wonder how are they gonna handle ashley. is she gonna be stronger than leon in RE4R? anyways the julia voth mod is bad done but i really do appreciate that mod, it is super special to me since a lot of people helped me with suggestions and every suggestion made me learn something new. plus it was my first facial mod and even if this looks easy to do is not, being modder is one thing and being ''modeller'' is a whole different thing. about your request maybe , i'm not too sure how many outfits do i need to replace since i remember that for some reason this game has a lot of files for example infected jill has his own model and same with the mirror sequence. my idea with this mod is like the title say the Umbrella Chronicles jill, and maybe in the main pic is not so noticeable but i was trying to make a blue like her uc version but i failed also i forgot to mention, im making her legs more thick like her old self since i think new jill is a way too skinny. reiko26 clipping in those games are pretty common xd {Custom Spoiler} .
also if anyone is wondering why she doesnt look dirt is because i'm using snipz mod to see her face more clearly. I guess we share the same view again on the personality side. There was nothing wrong with being "weak" and need to be protected. Male character like Ethan can be weak too. Yet they decided to make every female characters be like Sarah Connor nowadays....... If they make a new female character I am fine with it. However this is a REMAKE, Jill is supposed to be Jill. That I can't accept. They really need to stop changing their characters' face/voice/personality. The part I hated the most is how they make Jill curses so much. That's a naive way to make someone looks strong. Cursing doesn't make your character feel more badass. If that's so every RE protagonist like Chris/Leon should be always cursing They even made the 1-liner at the end comes with a f word. It is just annoying at that point. The OG version was way cleaner. Also, "I know what a radio is" is just the best example on how they forced Jill to feel strong/independent but made her annoying instead. That's just being a jerk, not strong. =============Back to the mod XD================= haha everytime you say your old mods are bad I just can't feel the same. They all look great to me LOL May be I'm not a pro and can't really tell the difference. Or you are just too good so even your "bad mods" are great XD About the request, I understand. I forgot there were a lot of different versions of model in this game lol. If that's a lot of work I really do understand. As you said, you wanted Jill to look like UC anyway. However I still want to request for "No accessories" or at least no holster belt on the upper body It is because I personally always prefer the default look when you start OG RE3. I was upset at REmake and UC Jill because of how the holster option became the official look. When I use Classic costume mods, I always look for a no holster variation. Please consider this 1 option for the mod if it is not too diffcult As for the legs, 100% agreed! OG Jill was one of the "thicker" female character. It was just a trait not meant to be sexual whatsoever. Yet they still change it to a more generic look for whatever reason they have. I'm so glad that you already did it! Thought it would be a lot of work to modify the body but you did it anyway. Nice one buddy! This will definitely be my favourite Classic costume mod. There was a mod had custom body with the DLC version but I like the Resistance version more. But the Resistance mods never had custom body. So seems like your version will be my definitive choice
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Post by chiarav1 on Oct 28, 2020 18:35:12 GMT 10
yeah... i really miss classic jill not only her face also her personality. i used to believed that jill was a male version of chris (i still love chris) but playing the classic games made me realized that i was wrong, especially in the OG 3 she has a lot of personality and thats why this new ''jill'' bother me so much, new jill is just plain and boring, the typical prototype of female characters nowadays fearless, stronger than anything, immortal... how are we gonna empathize with the character like this? but now people doesn't care too much since she's hot and it seems like that's more than enough. this same thing happened with remake 2 claire and it seems like next female characters are gonna be like this. i wonder how are they gonna handle ashley. is she gonna be stronger than leon in RE4R? anyways the julia voth mod is bad done but i really do appreciate that mod, it is super special to me since a lot of people helped me with suggestions and every suggestion made me learn something new. plus it was my first facial mod and even if this looks easy to do is not, being modder is one thing and being ''modeller'' is a whole different thing. about your request maybe , i'm not too sure how many outfits do i need to replace since i remember that for some reason this game has a lot of files for example infected jill has his own model and same with the mirror sequence. my idea with this mod is like the title say the Umbrella Chronicles jill, and maybe in the main pic is not so noticeable but i was trying to make a blue like her uc version but i failed also i forgot to mention, im making her legs more thick like her old self since i think new jill is a way too skinny. reiko26 clipping in those games are pretty common xd {Custom Spoiler} .
also if anyone is wondering why she doesnt look dirt is because i'm using snipz mod to see her face more clearly. I guess we share the same view again on the personality side. There was nothing wrong with being "weak" and need to be protected. Male character like Ethan can be weak too. Yet they decided to make every female characters be like Sarah Connor nowadays....... If they make a new female character I am fine with it. However this is a REMAKE, Jill is supposed to be Jill. That I can't accept. They really need to stop changing their characters' face/voice/personality. The part I hated the most is how they make Jill curses so much. That's a naive way to make someone looks strong. Cursing doesn't make your character feel more badass. If that's so every RE protagonist like Chris/Leon should be always cursing They even made the 1-liner at the end comes with a f word. It is just annoying at that point. The OG version was way cleaner. Also, "I know what a radio is" is just the best example on how they forced Jill to feel strong/independent but made her annoying instead. That's just being a jerk, not strong. =============Back to the mod XD================= haha everytime you say your old mods are bad I just can't feel the same. They all look great to me LOL May be I'm not a pro and can't really tell the difference. Or you are just too good so even your "bad mods" are great XD About the request, I understand. I forgot there were a lot of different versions of model in this game lol. If that's a lot of work I really do understand. As you said, you wanted Jill to look like UC anyway. However I still want to request for "No accessories" or at least no holster belt on the upper body It is because I personally always prefer the default look when you start OG RE3. I was upset at REmake and UC Jill because of how the holster option became the official look. When I use Classic costume mods, I always look for a no holster variation. Please consider this 1 option for the mod if it is not too diffcult As for the legs, 100% agreed! OG Jill was one of the "thicker" female character. It was just a trait not meant to be sexual whatsoever. Yet they still change it to a more generic look for whatever reason they have. I'm so glad that you already did it! Thought it would be a lot of work to modify the body but you did it anyway. Nice one buddy! This will definitely be my favourite Classic costume mod. There was a mod had custom body with the DLC version but I like the Resistance version more. But the Resistance mods never had custom body. So seems like your version will be my definitive choice Heyyyy sorry for the late reply yeah there's nothing wrong with being weak and in a situation like that is even more understable, but for new jill it seems like her all life has been a action heroine, even brad that his character was meant to be a coward is a hero now..... why? they handled so good leon in remake 2 and now suddenly everyone is a hero, everyone has deal with zombies and tyrants before woahh, best game IGN 10/10. y'know i was thinking in your request and im just gonna do it, im gonna let the laziness behind lol, since is just remove some stuff and a little reskin. also so far what i got this still looks terrible i know D: i been having a hard time with the belt also im gonna do another hair since im not too happy with jan's hair (too messy) but first i need to figure out how to make the physics work because the default hair is on the wrong side. i remember that in the demo i released a version with her hair in the right side, but it looked too glitchy and like now we can move bones (this doesnt work for facial mods) i hope be able to fix this. i cant released a static hair xd linz UC carlos face? idk maybe, but not to soon because after jill i want to take a break from modding EDIT: also idk if anyone wants to test her face here it is www.mediafire.com/file/hb3k3hdgw7ehvir/jill.rar/file still doesnt replace her in all modes is just a test
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Post by linz on Oct 29, 2020 5:22:52 GMT 10
This looks outstanding so far. Shame about the hair, it looks so great, hopefully you can figure something out. As for the outfit... A+, but I think you could get away with making the harness a liiiiiittle bit more green-ish. Keep it up Cheevs!!
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Post by dddvg4 on Oct 30, 2020 20:31:31 GMT 10
I guess we share the same view again on the personality side. There was nothing wrong with being "weak" and need to be protected. Male character like Ethan can be weak too. Yet they decided to make every female characters be like Sarah Connor nowadays....... If they make a new female character I am fine with it. However this is a REMAKE, Jill is supposed to be Jill. That I can't accept. They really need to stop changing their characters' face/voice/personality. The part I hated the most is how they make Jill curses so much. That's a naive way to make someone looks strong. Cursing doesn't make your character feel more badass. If that's so every RE protagonist like Chris/Leon should be always cursing They even made the 1-liner at the end comes with a f word. It is just annoying at that point. The OG version was way cleaner. Also, "I know what a radio is" is just the best example on how they forced Jill to feel strong/independent but made her annoying instead. That's just being a jerk, not strong. =============Back to the mod XD================= haha everytime you say your old mods are bad I just can't feel the same. They all look great to me LOL May be I'm not a pro and can't really tell the difference. Or you are just too good so even your "bad mods" are great XD About the request, I understand. I forgot there were a lot of different versions of model in this game lol. If that's a lot of work I really do understand. As you said, you wanted Jill to look like UC anyway. However I still want to request for "No accessories" or at least no holster belt on the upper body It is because I personally always prefer the default look when you start OG RE3. I was upset at REmake and UC Jill because of how the holster option became the official look. When I use Classic costume mods, I always look for a no holster variation. Please consider this 1 option for the mod if it is not too diffcult As for the legs, 100% agreed! OG Jill was one of the "thicker" female character. It was just a trait not meant to be sexual whatsoever. Yet they still change it to a more generic look for whatever reason they have. I'm so glad that you already did it! Thought it would be a lot of work to modify the body but you did it anyway. Nice one buddy! This will definitely be my favourite Classic costume mod. There was a mod had custom body with the DLC version but I like the Resistance version more. But the Resistance mods never had custom body. So seems like your version will be my definitive choice Heyyyy sorry for the late reply yeah there's nothing wrong with being weak and in a situation like that is even more understable, but for new jill it seems like her all life has been a action heroine, even brad that his character was meant to be a coward is a hero now..... why? they handled so good leon in remake 2 and now suddenly everyone is a hero, everyone has deal with zombies and tyrants before woahh, best game IGN 10/10. y'know i was thinking in your request and im just gonna do it, im gonna let the laziness behind lol, since is just remove some stuff and a little reskin. also so far what i got this still looks terrible i know D: i been having a hard time with the belt also im gonna do another hair since im not too happy with jan's hair (too messy) but first i need to figure out how to make the physics work because the default hair is on the wrong side. i remember that in the demo i released a version with her hair in the right side, but it looked too glitchy and like now we can move bones (this doesnt work for facial mods) i hope be able to fix this. i cant released a static hair xd linz UC carlos face? idk maybe, but not to soon because after jill i want to take a break from modding EDIT: also idk if anyone wants to test her face here it is www.mediafire.com/file/hb3k3hdgw7ehvir/jill.rar/file still doesnt replace her in all modes is just a test Hey I m the one who is Sorry for my late reply XD As you said, I'm fine with "Reimagining" instead of "Remake" but "Reimagining" still at least being faithful to the characters. OG RE was all about characters. In RE3E, everything is so unrecognisable other than the character names. Jill's design can be any new female character, or might as well be named Lara. I honestly don't see any difference if Jill is named Alice and Brad is just a random new character instead. I really hope they do it right in RE4R, I don't want another RE3R. I was so disappointed because I know they only have 1 chance to remake my favourite RE game. There will be no RE3RR and they messed it up. =============== Thank you!!! So so so much appreciated that you are gonna do that! You know there are a lot of versions to replace but you still do it. Props to you my friend and No, it does not look terrible XD. And I'm not lying I see you are trying to give her the OG belt. But for the White Jacket, I personally think the Resistance version looks more accurate to the OG (in terms of size and shape). But the DLC version is similar enough tho and I guess it is a lot of work already. So I'm sure you will get the right design regardless Good luck with the hair bones buddy. I'm no modder but I know editing bones is the next level of work you have to put in. Much respected! And I didn't expect we can actually try this early! I will try to squeeze some time to test and hopefully give you some constructive suggestions these few days! So excited to see it in motion!
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Post by bloodyhunter on Nov 2, 2020 2:28:20 GMT 10
I've tested the face, chiarav1! It's without a doubt the best Julia Voth face mod that has been created so far. It's very, very impressive. I mean, look at this : I know this is still WIP but I've noticed a couple things that you might want to know : - Whenever Jill speaks in-game, her lips don't move. She justs has her "idle" animation, as if she is just breathing.
- It might be me, but in the 1st pic of the 1st row, and the 2nd from the second one, you'll notice that her eyelashes and tongue look a bit too bright. Or maybe it's just due to the lighting, I don't know haha but it's not really bothering.
Last thing regarding the outfit, do you plan on keeping the cardigan from the DLC outfit instead of the shirt/jacket from the REsistance one? Or is there a reason behind that choice? In any case, the face and outfit look fantastic! Anyway, congrats and thank you for all your hard work!!!
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Post by agent9 on Nov 2, 2020 18:48:04 GMT 10
Oh my, the face look 100% better with yours.
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Post by linz on Nov 2, 2020 19:02:47 GMT 10
I do have one question. Could this be paired with the OG Julia mod, or even the default face but keeping the hair from this?
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Post by dddvg4 on Nov 2, 2020 19:26:13 GMT 10
Tested her in game and she is just STUNNING!! I mean look at these: I think there isn't much to say about her face XD If I really have to suggest something, I guess it is her eyes. (But again I'm not even sure if it is the model's issue or just RE engine being weird) Her eyes sometimes look "lazy" as in her pupil got blocked by the eyelids too much. It is still the eyelid problem and I think you once said it is due to the smaller head. If it is an engine issue then I guess there isn't much to suggest anymore It is more obvious in the Model Viewer and in 1 of the expression during her Idle animation. I made sure I took the screenshot when her eyes are fully opened. Like these:
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Post by chiarav1 on Nov 3, 2020 13:58:42 GMT 10
I've tested the face, chiarav1 ! It's without a doubt the best Julia Voth face mod that has been created so far. It's very, very impressive. I mean, look at this : I know this is still WIP but I've noticed a couple things that you might want to know : - Whenever Jill speaks in-game, her lips don't move. She justs has her "idle" animation, as if she is just breathing.
- It might be me, but in the 1st pic of the 1st row, and the 2nd from the second one, you'll notice that her eyelashes and tongue look a bit too bright. Or maybe it's just due to the lighting, I don't know haha but it's not really bothering.
Last thing regarding the outfit, do you plan on keeping the cardigan from the DLC outfit instead of the shirt/jacket from the REsistance one? Or is there a reason behind that choice? In any case, the face and outfit look fantastic! Anyway, congrats and thank you for all your hard work!!! thank you so much for the feedback! i will keep all this in mind for the final version, although i'm not too sure about what can be causing the tongue issue since im using the default tongue textures . and about the close mouth while she speak i think someone once mentioned that the julia mod has that same issue but for me she open her mouth even in the radio conversations so i'm also clueless about this. also yup im going to use the dlc cardigan since i think is more accurate to the UC version, the resistance version looks kinda like sienna's jill. _____________________________________________- dddvg4 hii also sorry for the late reply again lol you right, i remember when i was watching one of the first ''RE3'' trailer and i saw this new jill... i didn't even recognize her until the guy in the stream scream jill. she can be anyone, but this is not only with the characters anymore RE7 can also have another title and nobody will even noticed. they take advantage of the popularity of the franchise and their characters and dont even know them, they hire new people who has no idea what was resident evil. i feel the same i was so hyped with re3 because i absolutely loved re2 (even with the nonsense stuff and claire not being claire) but this game was such a big disappointment if they ever remake re4 i don't have big hopes, since RE engine is beautiful but expensive so they are cutting a lot of stuff thanks to that. and about the lazy eye maybe are the animations? compared to sasha's jill voth jill has big eyelids and in sasha this might not be so noticeable because her eyelids are so much smaller.
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Post by linz on Nov 4, 2020 1:28:48 GMT 10
Lookin good, maybe you could add some extra fringe strands as to be more faithful to the UC model, but honestly this looks great already! Also, i'm wondering if you could replace the hair textures with Jan's to make the hair look smoother, cause Jill's looks kinda rough and greasy.
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