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Post by rubyofblue on Jun 4, 2020 7:52:54 GMT 10
Hello! So ever since RE2 remake came out, Claire's face has always been one of my biggest peeves. Being that she's my favorite RE character, the fact that she looks nothing like any of her past appearances has bothered me. The face being the main issue. It's not that she's ugly! Just that she doesn't look like Claire.
So, since I have way too much time on my hands, and since I just can't let some things go, I'd like to request a mod that restores Claire's face to more resemble her previous incarnations. And to that end, I've created a few quick n dirty photoshop jobs, and a visual guide. There have been a couple Claire face mods that definitely improve on the vanilla look, but don't quite get there in capturing Claire's classic look.
Here are the adjustments I've made to some pictures of RE2 remake's Claire that will hopefully help in reshaping her face:
I've highlight the six key features that will help her look more like Claire. The red hair is just an extra aspect I added.
-Her eyebrows' thickness should trend toward the front-end rather than the back-end, giving her a more sympathetic expression
-Her upper and lower eyelids should be a bit higher, giving her eyes a more 'cheerful' gaze, with her irises also being slightly closer together to avoid the bulging-fish-eye look of vanilla
-Her nose shouldn't necessarily be made thinner, but sharper. Both with the bridge, and the tip, while also being slightly longer
-Her cheeks should be made sharper, with more of an S-curve
-Her jawline should be made sharper with a slightly longer chin, creating more of a v-shape
-Her lips should have more defined angles, with the edges of her mouth extending out a little more, into a slight upturn
Here are images of Claire's past faces, and my references for the above adjustments:
If anyone with experience in 3D modeling were to pick this request up, I'd be forever grateful!
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Post by rain395 on Jun 4, 2020 18:23:37 GMT 10
Hey, Ruby!
I'm glad you posted this. I've been working on a similar mod for a while and doing my best to fix and improve Claire. The current version is cute in her own way, no doubt, but I agree that she does not resemble the classic Claire I grew up on and loved. They somehow got Leon and Ada so right, yet in my opinion they screwed up Claire. Even in RE3 Remake, despite not being Julia Voth, she still resembles Jill in her own way. They even "improved" on Carlos by a mile despite looking different. The current Claire just feels like a downgrade and they made her look too young and childish, hence why it sort of disturbs me seeing her in lewd mods lol she looks like she's barely older than Sherry, only taller.
So I am working on fixing that. I'm not sure if this is allowed but I shared my Twitter post below so you can see my progress. I'm working on making Claire as close to Classic Claire as possible. I'm working on two different versions, one with the default Claire face as a base and one with mixed features of both Sasha Zotova and Jordan McEwen (personally, while I liked Sasha as Jill, I use the Julia Voth mod because I think Sasha would have made a better Claire).
So what do you think so far?
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Post by rubyofblue on Jun 4, 2020 21:41:31 GMT 10
Oh my goodness, that's fantastic!! With some further adjustments I outlined about to her eyes and eyebrows, it'd look nearly perfect! I'd also keep track of the eyes, because thinning out the nose, the cheeks, and the jawline can make them look bigger.
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Post by rain395 on Jun 4, 2020 21:59:55 GMT 10
Oh my goodness, that's fantastic!! With some further adjustments I outlined about to her eyes and eyebrows, it'd look nearly perfect! I'd also keep track of the eyes, because thinning out the nose, the cheeks, and the jawline can make them look bigger. Thank you! That first tweet was actually the first version of the mod. I re-started from scratch and here's what I ended up with Not sure if you saw it. There's not a lot I can do for the eyes, unfortunately. As much as possible, I'd like to avoid messing with them for fear of the eye bug, in which the eyeball clips through either upper or lower eyelids in certain angles or when she blinks. I did raise her eyes a little bit, though. I'm still working on improving my modding skills so I can truly create a more accurate Claire, and that requires me having to mess with eyelashes and her eyebrows in order to achieve the look I truly want for her. But as of now, check out these updates and let me know what you think.
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Post by rain395 on Jun 4, 2020 22:07:55 GMT 10
Also! Also!
Here's a different edit. It comes with a few bug of its own but nothing unfixable, just requires someone with more skills than me which I've been looking for at the moment.
This version uses a mod I commissioned from DarknessValtier, where he brings Sasha Zotova to Claire. Personally, I think Sasha Zotova looks very good as Claire even though I thought she made a fine Jill as well. Unfortunately, Jill's face doesn't animate well on Claire's and she ends up getting this strong, manly look.
I took the liberty of editing the face to fit it the way I want it to, but like I said there are a few bugs:
1) Her eyelashes clip through her upper eyelids in certain cutscenes where she demonstrates an angry face (mostly noticeable in Sherry's abduction scene with Irons, not much elsewhere). I am very happy with her eyes and eyebrows so I do not want to have to mess with them just to get rid of this eyelash problem and besides, it's not too bad.
2) There are weird triangle marks on the back of her neck and head. I don't know how to fix it for sure but I've been told that I messed up the UVW seams (required to fix her neck seams) during the process and I don't know how to reverse it. But it is possible to get rid of. I'm quite satisfied with her look so far so all I really want to do anyway is to get rid of the triangles on her back.
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Post by rubyofblue on Jun 4, 2020 22:13:38 GMT 10
From the other screenshots you shared, it seems raising her upper eyelids give her a more bulging-look, so I would lower them back a bit. And if it doesn't cause any problems, I think making her lower lip thicker would be good too. I notice that vanilla Claire has a weird issue where her eyes' directions aren't totally aligned, which can make for derpy and wide-eyed expressions at points. Dunno if that's something you can adjust, like rotating each eye a degree or two toward the center of her face. Hope that wouldn't result in cross-eyedness XD And is it just me, or does vanilla Claire have an issue where her lips are way wider in-game than they are in cutscenes? Cuz I imagine that definitely complicates things.
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Post by rain395 on Jun 4, 2020 23:07:41 GMT 10
From the other screenshots you shared, it seems raising her upper eyelids give her a more bulging-look, so I would lower them back a bit. And if it doesn't cause any problems, I think making her lower lip thicker would be good too. I notice that vanilla Claire has a weird issue where her eyes' directions aren't totally aligned, which can make for derpy and wide-eyed expressions at points. Dunno if that's something you can adjust, like rotating each eye a degree or two toward the center of her face. Hope that wouldn't result in cross-eyedness XD And is it just me, or does vanilla Claire have an issue where her lips are way wider in-game than they are in cutscenes? Cuz I imagine that definitely complicates things. Thanks! I'll keep that in mind with her eyes. I just wanted to avoid the "sunken" look that default Claire has. I'll give the thicker lower lip a shot as well Oh yeah, she does have that derpy look and I don't think it can be helped, unfortunately. It's ingrained in her animations, so to speak. Sadly, like I said, I can't do too much about the eyes since I wanted to avoid problems with them. And yeah lol her lips are a lot wider in-game, which gives her a toad-ish look lmao but she does suffer similar problems in some of the cutscenes. It's in the animations as well, I think. Thank you for the suggestions, I'll be sure to try them out in my next few updates.
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Post by rubyofblue on Jun 4, 2020 23:17:24 GMT 10
It seems RE2make Claire is forever cursed with some troubled animations and rigging XD Makes me wonder why since none of the other characters have these weird issues.
I can't wait to try this out. I think it'll look godly with a proper Claire hair mod, or the true classic mod that Atlier is working on-
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Post by rain395 on Jun 4, 2020 23:24:47 GMT 10
It seems RE2make Claire is forever cursed with some troubled animations and rigging XD Makes me wonder why since none of the other characters have these weird issues. I can't wait to try this out. I think it'll look godly with a proper Claire hair mod, or the true classic mod that Atlier is working on- honestly, right?! XD XD It seems like it's a Claire problem because there's a mod that applies Ada's face animations to Claire and though it doesn't fix a lot, it's a big improvement to her face animations. So maybe it is a Claire issue, it's like they tried to make her cute but instead made her look derpy. I'm also eager awaiting for Atlier's true classic mod, that's the only reason I still have this crappy remake--err-- reimagining installed lmfao
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