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Post by -IronSoul- on Feb 24, 2016 1:26:02 GMT 10
Hey guys! i have a huuuuuge question about processors, i have on mind buy a new processor/gpu/motherboard but i have some small doubts
1.- i understand that if a processor have a quad core with 4.0 ghz is way better that a dual core with 4.0 ghz, but that means that the quad core have 4 ghz on every core? (it may be a stupid question but i really have no idea about processors)
2.- as you might know, resident evil revelations 2 isn't too optimized, but it should run acceptable, even better than ps4, (talking about the pc release) if it runs with no lag, but skiping fps, hmmm don't know how to explain it, the game runs just fine, but i need to leave it ''charging'' like for 5 minutes every time it loads something new (example: a new raid mode mission) if i don't do this the game skips fps, the character stands there, i move it and the game freezes and the character appears like 5 feets away in the direction that i have move in the next seconds, same with enemies, this is very frustrating, so i'm trying to get an octa core with 4 ghz, my question is, if i give the game an octa core with at least 4 ghz, should it run without this ''laggy'' problem?
3.- does the motherboard affect that much the gaming experience? i was looking for an economic but good option, but it also needs to be compatible with the gpu and processor, so my most cheap and good option is around 210 dollars... the processor is around that aswell xD
thanks to anyone who can help me.
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Post by D on Feb 24, 2016 2:27:24 GMT 10
1. Yes. On a side note it all depends on how many cores the game is programmed to use. You can have a beast 16 core CPU yet it can perform same way a dual core of same generation at similar clock speeds would perform. Generally more cores/hyperthreading enables you to multitask so you can have let's say skype, browser and other software open while you play w/o slowing down your system.
2. If you're talking about stuttering when the game loads new assets then it depends on your CPU's and GPU's raw power. To avoid those you'd need a medium range CPU and a high end GPU. If your GPU isn't good enough then it will stutter usually for a 1/4th of a second at some points, mostly at Raid.
3. Motherboard determines what chipset your system is going to have. Chipset determines what capabilities your system will have like: overclocking CPU/RAM, number of USB ports and and newer generations like USB3.1 if your motherboard is new, number of SATA ports for your drives, number of PCI lanes for your cards, etc. Generally speaking it's not necessary to get the best chipset, it all depends on your needs.
PS. A good system always has a reliable PSU.
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Post by Szani95 on Feb 24, 2016 4:51:39 GMT 10
well i have a geforce gtx 750ti 2gb but it stutters like hell. also 8gb ram and a quad core cpu...
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Post by Night Furious on Feb 24, 2016 7:00:14 GMT 10
New processors and gpu, more mods? =D JK!
1. Yeah! 2. If you are focused on good work for Revelations 2, then there impossible to guess. It's just good and bad optimization from developers for certain PC systems. I mean, I have a good graphics card and 6 core protsesoor at 4GHz, but I also get freezes and stuttering. Also plays the role of a hard disk, him processing speed. Ideally, need a SSD, but it is too expensive solution for many. 3. You have answered your own question. Processor, graphics card and motherboard should good to be combined and fit together. If you buy a weak processor, but powerful graphics card, the processor will not be able to exploit the full potential and power of your graphics card!
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Post by egglesplork on Feb 24, 2016 9:37:00 GMT 10
_____Yep, D's right when it comes to processors and gaming. Doesn't matter what kind of cyber-demon you're runnin'. You could have some Satanically overclocked creation with sixteen brains under the hood and OC'd to 6ghz with liquid nitrogen for cooling. It won't mean DIDDLEY if the freakin' GAME ENGINE is only runnin' on ONE FREAKIN' CORE! If the game engine ignores the OTHER fifteen cores, then that's the bottleneck. Game's gonna suck. _____But CPU's not the thing. GPU is where it's at. And... Ohh, so sorry! "Not optimized for SLI," it says in the system requirements. Even if ya got a daisy chain of four graphics cards--suckin' so much power the neighborhood lights dim every time you crank that bastard on--it still won't matter. Game engine FAIL, it only wants ONE graphics card to have carnal relations with. _____I'm not sayin' that the software engineers are lazy sacks of fertilizer. Nope, not at all! Even if some of them have a vague...aroma about them. For Beelzebub's sake, there's a laundromat on every corner! And you can wash up in gas-station bathrooms. (Cyn told me about that one. Don't ask.) At least use baby-wipes to scrub yer back, yer pits, and yer groin. What is their problem! _____Anyway, a bit off topic there. It's more like, the console kingpins force these dudes and dude-ettes of game-engine software design to make games for PCs and gaming peasant-boxes. Since the console kingpins have lotsa kneecap-breaking enforcers (translated, LAWYERS) to back up their attitudes, game makers HAVE to make games for consoles first and THEN PCs. Guess what? Cornball overpriced and underpowered consoles only want games runnin' in certain ways, and to Hades with whatever kind of hardware beast-power is OTHERWISE available. Optimized for CONSOLES, draggin' ass on PCs, games are gonna suck even with a decent machine. That said... THANK YOU, MICROF_CK AND PHONY FOR CRIPPLING GAMING FOR EVERYONE!
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Post by D on Feb 24, 2016 10:35:52 GMT 10
_____But CPU's not the thing. GPU is where it's at. And... Ohh, so sorry! "Not optimized for SLI," it says in the system requirements. Even if ya got a daisy chain of four graphics cards--suckin' so much power the neighborhood lights dim every time you crank that bastard on--it still won't matter. Game engine FAIL, it only wants ONE graphics card to have carnal relations with. True. It's a rule. You should always have a single powerful GPU instead of two+ mid ones. Not only SLI needs compatibility (and a lot of titles lack it) there are also SLI related bugs, microstuttering and depending on the developer might not even run that good or fully utilize both cards. This particular title needs a strong GPU for stutterless gameplay. In a perfect world you should have a nice CPU, high clock rate RAM and a single powerful GPU.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2016 15:20:43 GMT 10
It's worth noting that SLI also takes up some /serious/ power.
At this stage, SLI is more a show of wealth than anything else. Stick with one highend GPU over two midend ones, as D said.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 9:35:46 GMT 10
i had a pc with 8gigas ddr3 1600htz, a quadcore amd fx4100 3.6, and a vga 750ti 2gb. and runs fine until batman arkham night.
i think this is a mid end pc but here in brazil you would spent more or less 1500 reais because the dollar is almost 4 reais now.
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Post by -IronSoul- on Feb 26, 2016 18:18:33 GMT 10
thanks y'all!
so, i should priorize a graphic card then? i will buy one part per month so i need to think which part will have more impact on the gameplay, because as steam activated a way to pay on my country that allows me to buy most of the resident evil games directly, i will start to buy all of them (giving priority to revelations 2 and re6 if you ask me).
also, i was thinking on a GTX970 and an Amd FX-8350, i saw on youtube that it was a good combination, at least 100 fps or more on revelations 2 on ultra settings, but with 60 fps specially on raid i'll be pretty happy by the way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 19:15:05 GMT 10
Once you have a quad 4.0ghz core you're pretty much good CPU wise for a long-while, its the GPU which is usually more costly and based on choice that will get you
But Nvidia GTX 980 is pretty popular from what I know but its like 500$ lol
Just saw some gameplay of a nvidia gtx 970 and it had above 70fps on gta on ultra at 4k so thats pretty neat, but the cpu was pretty costly though =c
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Post by D on Feb 26, 2016 20:13:52 GMT 10
You can have a Core2Quad running at 4GHz, doesn't mean that it will run well at all.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 21:30:46 GMT 10
The best price/performance card on the market atm is a GTX 970, if that helps.
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Post by D on Feb 27, 2016 9:59:28 GMT 10
thanks y'all! also, i was thinking on a GTX970 and an Amd FX-8350, i saw on youtube that it was a good combination, at least 100 fps or more on revelations 2 on ultra settings, but with 60 fps specially on raid i'll be pretty happy by the way. It's a decent combo and will last for years. 8 core FX is a decent deal, considering it's half the price (or at least should) of an i7.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 1:54:01 GMT 10
Just a note if you DO get an AMD FX-8350: AMD STOCK COOLERS ARE FUCKING LOUD. ABSURDLY LOUD.
Get a hyper 212 evo or a TX3 evo otherwise you'll probably develop noise anxiety.
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Post by -IronSoul- on Mar 1, 2016 2:32:07 GMT 10
well my celeron processor have a loud cooler aswell, but with headphones doesn't bother me at all, but if those are louder that mine, i will get a hype 212 xD thanks for the advice
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