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Post by bennpowell on Mar 9, 2018 2:06:14 GMT 10
Alright then, here you go: drive.google.com/open?id=1U8FWgUivfKYXrGF0nJULxZ2wkJHXnZYUUPDATE: I managed to beat this "unbeatable" itemlist just fine. Found every necessary item, visited all locations, no problems at all (except dog whistle glitch, but you can avoid this, by using it before Plant 42 fight). Well what Jtegh said is not completely true, I don't think the inifnite launcher spawning is a sign of it being unbeatable, just that something went wrong doing the list generation. But bennpowell can correct me on that Right, it means that an item wasn't correctly given out. If you finished the run then I'm guessing it failed to give out a herb or other nonessential item, but the possibility is that it *could* have been a key item
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Post by xranger60 on Mar 18, 2018 10:42:40 GMT 10
Excellent work! Is there any chance that the models could be swapped, too?
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Post by Snipz on Mar 19, 2018 10:12:33 GMT 10
Excellent work! Is there any chance that the models could be swapped, too? Do you mean the ones in the stage as you pick them up? if so that we cant make correspond with the item
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Post by bennpowell on Mar 21, 2018 4:06:23 GMT 10
Excellent work! Is there any chance that the models could be swapped, too? Do you mean the ones in the stage as you pick them up? if so that we cant make correspond with the item Yeah it would be a total nightmare, there's no guarantee the item would appear in the right place, or in the floor, or upside down, or visible to the camera, or if it's an item that actually has a model that appears on the ground (some don't)
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Post by krook on Mar 22, 2018 2:36:32 GMT 10
Do you mean the ones in the stage as you pick them up? if so that we cant make correspond with the item Yeah it would be a total nightmare, there's no guarantee the item would appear in the right place, or in the floor, or upside down, or visible to the camera, or if it's an item that actually has a model that appears on the ground (some don't) When I managed to completely swap one room with another, it displayed some shotgun shells on the floor perfectly fine however that is probably the simplest design of all the items. I imagine the common items like herbs, ammo & ink ribbons would look fine, however who knows what the puzzle items would show. Still it would be interesting to see if and what would happen if it was done. It would also add to the possibility of being able to create a new campaign with customised models, enemy layout, speech, text etc
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Apr 3, 2018 23:11:42 GMT 10
I totally missed that you updated this! Gonna see if I have the chance to try out a randomized Jill run somewhere this week! amazing updates BennPowell very excited to try those out EDIT: playing as Jill unsure if this was intended, or if you intended to do the batteries. The result is the same though. it's kinda cool to just find these instead:
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Apr 15, 2018 4:40:19 GMT 10
I ran into an unbeatable situation. the fuel capsule was in the medicine room in the guardhouse (according to cheatsheet), and I didn't get the gallery key until the lab. when I tried to go get the fuel capsule it turned out both garden elevators were down and I couldn't go to the guardhouse anymore. they were both down because I had gone into the underground tunnels. it did cause a nice sequence break where Lisa didn't spawn (because I killed her in the bossfight already), and Barry never took the elevator up. sadly you can't use the elevator yourself. maybe if I played this seed in a slightly different order I might've been able to beat it (if I never went into the underground tunnels), but I ended up with an unbeatable scenario. dunno if there's much that can be done to prevent this issue... but just letting you know of this. link to item list and cheat sheet
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Post by bennpowell on Apr 23, 2018 21:54:56 GMT 10
I ran into an unbeatable situation. the fuel capsule was in the medicine room in the guardhouse (according to cheatsheet), and I didn't get the gallery key until the lab. when I tried to go get the fuel capsule it turned out both garden elevators were down and I couldn't go to the guardhouse anymore. they were both down because I had gone into the underground tunnels. it did cause a nice sequence break where Lisa didn't spawn (because I killed her in the bossfight already), and Barry never took the elevator up. sadly you can't use the elevator yourself. maybe if I played this seed in a slightly different order I might've been able to beat it (if I never went into the underground tunnels), but I ended up with an unbeatable scenario. dunno if there's much that can be done to prevent this issue... but just letting you know of this. link to item list and cheat sheetYeah this is a known issue, I'm not sure how I'm going to tackle it. I've heard different things about what causes it but haven't quite figured it out. Some people have said that going to the mansion and back again resets the elevators to the right position but I haven't tried it?
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Apr 23, 2018 22:10:15 GMT 10
I ran into an unbeatable situation. the fuel capsule was in the medicine room in the guardhouse (according to cheatsheet), and I didn't get the gallery key until the lab. when I tried to go get the fuel capsule it turned out both garden elevators were down and I couldn't go to the guardhouse anymore. they were both down because I had gone into the underground tunnels. it did cause a nice sequence break where Lisa didn't spawn (because I killed her in the bossfight already), and Barry never took the elevator up. sadly you can't use the elevator yourself. maybe if I played this seed in a slightly different order I might've been able to beat it (if I never went into the underground tunnels), but I ended up with an unbeatable scenario. dunno if there's much that can be done to prevent this issue... but just letting you know of this. link to item list and cheat sheetYeah this is a known issue, I'm not sure how I'm going to tackle it. I've heard different things about what causes it but haven't quite figured it out. Some people have said that going to the mansion and back again resets the elevators to the right position but I haven't tried it? I think I still have that save file, I can see if the going to the mansion thing fixes it or not. (although I don't think it did because if I remember correctly I came out of the lab/mansion when I went that way, but I'll check it out later to confirm) EDIT: I also just saw you posted the new update. looks like it's gonna be an interesting challenge with the optional remove healing/ammo or the self-defence guns only. looking forward to trying that out. Great work EDIT EDIT: I tried the self-defence gun modifier. It's pretty fun. and If you remove the empty self-defence gun by putting it in the storage box you can pick up a new self-defence gun without it having lost its ammo.
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Post by bennpowell on May 9, 2018 2:00:25 GMT 10
I know some people have been really wanting a peek at the source for this so I've tweeted out links to the source for the latest version as of writing this (0.75)
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Post by dadaken on May 20, 2018 3:36:15 GMT 10
(Sorry for my bad English) First of all : I love your mod. One of the best in this game. Sadly I had a problem when I played on Alpha 0.74 (I will try 0.75 next). You wrote "Version 0.74: Added modifier for the fuel capsule to be already armed when found" on your patch notes. I don't know why but I didn't get the fuel capsule immediately with Jill Normal Difficulty. So I was stuck : /
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on May 20, 2018 21:01:43 GMT 10
(Sorry for my bad English) First of all : I love your mod. One of the best in this game. Sadly I had a problem when I played on Alpha 0.74 (I will try 0.75 next). You wrote "Version 0.74: Added modifier for the fuel capsule to be already armed when found" on your patch notes. I don't know why but I didn't get the fuel capsule immediately with Jill Normal Difficulty. So I was stuck : / it being armed doesn't mean you start with it, it's a modifier that you can turn on that when you find the fuel capsule it is filled with explosive fuel. you still need to find the fuel capsule somewhere in the game.
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Post by dadaken on May 21, 2018 1:22:51 GMT 10
it being armed doesn't mean you start with it, it's a modifier that you can turn on that when you find the fuel capsule it is filled with explosive fuel. you still need to find the fuel capsule somewhere in the game. Ok, thanks, I understand now ^^ But nothing changes that I'm stuck because the fuel capsule is at underground of the Courtyard B1, Entrance Passage exactly, (I checked the file "CrankcheckedCheatSheetJillHard.txt" to find its position) and I don't have the hexagonal crank either. I searched everywhere and I didn't find that object. I noticed that I didn't check the hexagonal crank's position... I restarted a new game but I promise I searched everywhere xD
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on May 21, 2018 19:07:27 GMT 10
it being armed doesn't mean you start with it, it's a modifier that you can turn on that when you find the fuel capsule it is filled with explosive fuel. you still need to find the fuel capsule somewhere in the game. Ok, thanks, I understand now ^^ But nothing changes that I'm stuck because the fuel capsule is at underground of the Courtyard B1, Entrance Passage exactly, (I checked the file "CrankcheckedCheatSheetJillHard.txt" to find its position) and I don't have the hexagonal crank either. I searched everywhere and I didn't find that object. I noticed that I didn't check the hexagonal crank's position... I restarted a new game but I promise I searched everywhere xD can you upload your randomized file and cheatsheet?
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Post by dadaken on May 23, 2018 9:50:04 GMT 10
can you upload your randomized file and cheatsheet? No, sorry. I deleted all the files before starting a new game.
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