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Post by commambershep on Sept 23, 2018 9:55:35 GMT 10
I think if any mod should be made for 7, it should be an Oculus Rift mod. We've had no confirmation on a PC VR port so far. I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to force VR on the game, the hard part would be getting the motion controllers to work. If you think it's easy to force VR on games, you're really not knowledgeable at all.
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Post by MsLisbeth on Sept 24, 2018 12:30:51 GMT 10
Wow, okay, sorry.
Didn't mean to come off as a know it all, but alright.
It's hard to do both the VR perspective and tracking and the motion controllers.
But please, if you do know how to do it, shed some light on how it can be done?
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Post by theflyingmuffin on Oct 20, 2018 14:50:49 GMT 10
I'm pretty sure that technically all modding is illegal since it all falls into "reserve engineering", so this instance of the forums of being against a crack is hypocritical to say the least. I mean if Capcom even wanted us to mod RE they would have made the games modding friendly in the first place... Now that I think about it, didn't Capcom deliberately try to make RE5 for PC harder to mod because RE4 was so easy to? I remember reading this a long time ago.
Anyways, I think the forums should turn a blind eye to the fact that RE7 needs a crack to be able to mod, since having it doesn't automatically make yours a pirated copy. In this case I would just consider it an unfortunate turn of events. Also we have to remember that if RE modding is going to stay alive from now on we need to get over our (to be quite honest) flimsy stance on cracked .exes because I doubt any releases from now on will not have Denuvo. So we either turn a blind eye or the modding community dies.
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Post by ToCool74 on Oct 20, 2018 16:36:02 GMT 10
I'm pretty sure that technically all modding is illegal since it all falls into "reserve engineering", so this instance of the forums of being against a crack is hypocritical to say the least.
There is no equating piracy to modding really so your grasping here, one has you supporting giving their games away for free while the other actually adds replay value to their released games.
Let me shed some light on what this forum is about and how long its been about this policy, this forum has been up since 2007 and not ONCE has Capcom said a word about it despite the fact that this is the number 1 modding site for Resident Evil, type in "Resident Evil Modding" into any popular search engine and your going to see our forum first so there is no way Capcom does not know about this forum and yet they have never said a word to us so obviously they do not equate piracy and modding in the same category such as yourself since Capcom would actively try to shut down any community who actively supports pirating their games, we even have members in the past who have spoken to Capcom employees on the behalf of this community and yet they have never said anything about how they are against what we are doing. I think the fact that we as a forum make it clear that we do not support piracy has made Capcom "look the other way" towards our modding since as I said it actually adds replay value to their games and we don't support giving their games away for free. So pretty much Capcom turns a VERY apparent blind eye to modding even if they don't support is outright and there is no getting around that notion given that as I said this forum has been up for well over 10 years with no word from Capcom at all, now If we started actually supporting piracy you can be sure that Capcom would not sit by and we would most likely get a cease and desist in no time.
So pretty much there is NOTHING anyone can say to make us change that policy, whether you call us hypocrites or try to say this forum is going to die otherwise, hell people have been saying this forum is going to die for the past 6 years now and while we aren't booming we are still standing and will continue to stand in my opinion, but in the end believe what you want but know that this policy is not going to change so there is no point advocating for it here.
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Post by theflyingmuffin on Oct 21, 2018 9:21:42 GMT 10
I'm not grasping at all, I'm pretty sure most games have it written that in the T&C that reserve engineering is forbidden. And modding tools aren't build without that, not even modding knowledge exists without reverse engineering.
And I'm sorry, you're making little sense. Yeah Capcom aren't bothered by it, but Capcom is a company that has been known to appreciate fanworks and the dedication the community has for their games. The fact that they never said a word about it is because they know they get a lot more out of modding (more re playability, people might purchase a PC copy even if they already own it on a console, more visibility for their products, etc) because it's pretty much free marketing.
And in no way did I say that modding equals piracy.
Besides, I never said to support piracy, but maybe it'd be best if a blind eye was turned to it, for the sake of modding. Posting links to a crack? Not ok. Saying you are using one? Ok. Besides, we know that using a cracked .exe doesn't automatically make your copy free, just cracked. You can still pay for a product and acquire it in a legal manner and use a crack for it, I do this with classic Tomb Raiders to avoid using/damaging my disks. As far as I'm aware that is not illegal.
I don't particularly like it, I'm just stating my opinion.
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Post by commambershep on Oct 22, 2018 9:40:39 GMT 10
Please understand your law before you start bringing up T&Cs in a debate.
"Reverse engineering" means copying (either directly or indirectly) someone's product to make your own. Modding comes under expansion, not reverse engineering.
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Post by theflyingmuffin on Oct 24, 2018 2:46:37 GMT 10
No, it means taking apart something to either copy it OR enhance it. I guess modding falls into both since you have to learn how game functions work in order to make tools, you need to either replicate it's functions or at least replace them into something the game can read.
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Post by Crazy Potato on Nov 26, 2018 9:02:22 GMT 10
I'm with flyingmuffin on this, if you have legit copy then it should be fine to mod it. You not downloading a crack is literary nothing and will never stop piracy all together. Someone cracked the Sega Saturn CD 20 years later because he was interested in it.
I had to hack my ps4, Rip my legit copy of Gravity Rush 2, Get the tools from many different places and code them together, and the result is me being the sole modder for Gravity Rush as whole.
On that note if this forum does no condone piracy then why does the ps3 and 360 of Resident Evil 0-6 as well 4 for gamecube have tools for them when you need to decrypt xex/pkg file which is... a crack.
Mods will make the game have massive replay value which is great.
For Resident Evil 7 there is a 3rd person mod (year old at this point in time) you can change also character mod Ethan... if we had the tools.
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Nov 28, 2018 10:06:16 GMT 10
I'm pretty sure that technically all modding is illegal since it all falls into "reserve engineering", so this instance of the forums of being against a crack is hypocritical to say the least. There is no equating piracy to modding really so your grasping here, one has you supporting giving their games away for free while the other actually adds replay value to their released games. Let me shed some light on what this forum is about and how long its been about this policy, this forum has been up since 2007 and not ONCE has Capcom said a word about it despite the fact that this is the number 1 modding site for Resident Evil, type in "Resident Evil Modding" into any popular search engine and your going to see our forum first so there is no way Capcom does not know about this forum and yet they have never said a word to us so obviously they do not equate piracy and modding in the same category such as yourself since Capcom would actively try to shut down any community who actively supports pirating their games, we even have members in the past who have spoken to Capcom employees on the behalf of this community and yet they have never said anything about how they are against what we are doing. I think the fact that we as a forum make it clear that we do not support piracy has made Capcom "look the other way" towards our modding since as I said it actually adds replay value to their games and we don't support giving their games away for free. So pretty much Capcom turns a VERY apparent blind eye to modding even if they don't support is outright and there is no getting around that notion given that as I said this forum has been up for well over 10 years with no word from Capcom at all, now If we started actually supporting piracy you can be sure that Capcom would not sit by and we would most likely get a cease and desist in no time.
So pretty much there is NOTHING anyone can say to make us change that policy, whether you call us hypocrites or try to say this forum is going to die otherwise, hell people have been saying this forum is going to die for the past 6 years now and while we aren't booming we are still standing and will continue to stand in my opinion, but in the end believe what you want but know that this policy is not going to change so there is no point advocating for it here.
Let me put an even further emphasis on the "there is no way capcom doesn't know about us" because they DEFINITELY DO know about modding. I spoke to two producers from Cacpom personally at Gamescom this year, those two being Matt Walker and Hideaki Itsuno (from the DMC5 team). I even brought up the modding community, and Matt's reaction was "oh yeah I know of it, I've heard of it". Capcom has been ok with I'd say 98% of modding so far. I say 98% and not 100% because a few guys who were doing modding for SFV exclusively for their Patreon backers got a DMCA/C&D strike. because they were receiving money to create content for a Capcom owned game. Capcom is well aware like TooCool mentioned of the forums and that people here are doing their work not to make money of it, or off capcom's games, but instead because they have a big love/passion for these games. If we started condoning piracy/posting links to illegal copies of the games or making/posting tools that allowed people to crack games or other things ofcourse capcom would take notice and action. I sadly didn't get to talk to anyone from the RE team back at gamescom, otherwise I probably would've talked to them about modding more, but as I mentionned Capcom has DMCAed/C&Ded modders who've made money of making mods. this forums (including the old address at z6.invisionfree) has been around for well over 10 years and we haven't received this treatment, when they're definitely well aware of us. As for the reverse engineering mentionned, yes it's true because tools had to be made to open container files like the .ARC format used by all MT Framework games. however this reverse engineering in no way allows people to get a free/cracked copy of the game, which is the main thing this forum is against (that and not allowing nudity). Also I can't help but laugh whenever I see people mention the "the forums are gonna die/is dying out" thing. I joined the old z6.invisionfree version of the modding forums back in 2009 and people were yelling it back then (holy fuck I've been a member for over 9 years, dear lord!) and they still are... WE'RE STILL HERE~!
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Post by Akeinu on Nov 28, 2018 12:47:48 GMT 10
Compared to the time RE 4 to Revelations 2 the forum is pretty much dead, i would call it at least comatose. There where inactive times from time to time, but not for years like now. There arent any real discussions about the franchise anymore, its just once in a while technical stuff, complaining, or someone asking to reupload stuff.
The RE 2 Remake, or Rösidjunt Övil 7 did not make that much of a discussion.
Im here since RE5 and i came to these forums often to actual participate in discussions..... but that time is long gone and i doubt it will comback. RE lost all its soul with 7. The only reason i visit this forums once in a while is to check upon RE 4 to 6.
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Post by seda on Nov 28, 2018 21:30:16 GMT 10
Compared to the time RE 4 to Revelations 2 the forum is pretty much dead, i would call it at least comatose. There where inactive times from time to time, but not for years like now. There arent any real discussions about the franchise anymore, its just once in a while technical stuff, complaining, or someone asking to reupload stuff. The RE 2 Remake, or Rösidjunt Övil 7 did not make that much of a discussion. Im here since RE5 and i came to these forums often to actual participate in discussions..... but that time is long gone and i doubt it will comback. RE lost all its soul with 7. The only reason i visit this forums once in a while is to check upon RE 4 to 6. yeah somehow you are right in my opinion this franchise needed a boost like having a chance to play the game by fans' own method and not force them exactly to go the way that they have to go as director has decided already for them based on his personal taste  which indeed they'd done exactly the worse selfish decision in making noname 7 and have ruined the passion of most of fans for a while about their favorite franchise but i hope this new remake will be a chance to take it on top and make it worth to make more discussion albeit personally im still waiting to hear that they will put the re:dc models as a dlc then i will be hyped for this re2 (otherwise: personally i don't like it) but anyhow i wish for a good success for them in this one because i believe that this one somehow is gonna be a vote for the future of the franchise by the way you make a discussion and be sure that i love to read and get involved for now i want to make a funny but also important one! i really want to know that what genome means in capcom!   do you know what im talking about? The redfields! i mean the new ones which i can not recognize them anymore and i can't even find any similarity between them at all
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Post by classicbiohazard on Nov 28, 2018 21:56:34 GMT 10
Well... some of us we can say the same with re4,5,6 and revelations... For us, this games are not the same as the originals and lost their soul.
The problem is, I think, that actually are more difficult to mod the games than before. Resident evil have lost some of popularity and with his changes has obtained some fans but also lost others. Now is a series without soul, without identity.But it's not fault of re7, it happened long before re7 despite the success and interest with re4 and others by the community.
But if we had the tools to mod the last games or make a game with or without relatively easy way, I think this forum could be more live.
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Post by Akeinu on Nov 30, 2018 15:46:45 GMT 10
Well... some of us we can say the same with re4,5,6 and revelations... For us, this games are not the same as the originals and lost their soul. The problem is, I think, that actually are more difficult to mod the games than before. Resident evil have lost some of popularity and with his changes has obtained some fans but also lost others. Now is a series without soul, without identity.But it's not fault of re7, it happened long before re7 despite the success and interest with re4 and others by the community. But if we had the tools to mod the last games or make a game with or without relatively easy way, I think this forum could be more live. Want to know whats the difference between RE 4 styled Resident Evil games and RE 7 is? As much different as the gameplay is, the storys are coherently, have the same tone and are a natural continuation of what RE 1 was about. It would just make no sense for one zombie outbreak in a mansion like environment after another, when the whole zombies were an unwanted side effect in the first place. The evolution of the viruses and Umbrellas quick downfall made perfect sense too. The only tone breaks The action styled games have done would be like in Revelations for example, with the to futuristic stuff like Terragrigia and Space lasers (they felt a little to over the top + punching boulders hehehe), but compared to RE 7s bullshit thats nothing. Now Chris dosnt need to punch boulders, with the new ironman gloves he can insta kill every Tyrant. His punches can destroy complete buildings in 1 hit. We can talk to the dead and revive Forest and Enrico with the 7 moldy zombie balls, build The new Z.t.a.r.s Team to fight aliens and the mighty magic space zombies! thank you RE 7 thats the story progression we needed. RE 7 has nothing in common and introduces only cringy Sci Fi garbage and supernatural spririt worlds. It has nothing in common with the story, or tone of a Resident Evil. I would never recognized it as an RE if they had not put the name on it.... Thats the problem wich only RE 7 has. It claims wanting to be more realistic and delivert the most unrealistic cringe garbage you can have. I dont care if the next RE is a "Point and Click Adventure", or a "Strategie Game" as long as its good and has the RE feeling to it, with a natural progression of the story and charakters. I play every game and every genre as long as i like the gameplay, or story. RE 7 has neither of it for me and the story is an abysmal insult. Thats why RE is over, unless they declare Rösidjunt Övil 7 as not canon, any story that follows can only be trash.
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Post by theflyingmuffin on Dec 3, 2018 4:20:08 GMT 10
There is no equating piracy to modding really so your grasping here, one has you supporting giving their games away for free while the other actually adds replay value to their released games. Let me shed some light on what this forum is about and how long its been about this policy, this forum has been up since 2007 and not ONCE has Capcom said a word about it despite the fact that this is the number 1 modding site for Resident Evil, type in "Resident Evil Modding" into any popular search engine and your going to see our forum first so there is no way Capcom does not know about this forum and yet they have never said a word to us so obviously they do not equate piracy and modding in the same category such as yourself since Capcom would actively try to shut down any community who actively supports pirating their games, we even have members in the past who have spoken to Capcom employees on the behalf of this community and yet they have never said anything about how they are against what we are doing. I think the fact that we as a forum make it clear that we do not support piracy has made Capcom "look the other way" towards our modding since as I said it actually adds replay value to their games and we don't support giving their games away for free. So pretty much Capcom turns a VERY apparent blind eye to modding even if they don't support is outright and there is no getting around that notion given that as I said this forum has been up for well over 10 years with no word from Capcom at all, now If we started actually supporting piracy you can be sure that Capcom would not sit by and we would most likely get a cease and desist in no time.
So pretty much there is NOTHING anyone can say to make us change that policy, whether you call us hypocrites or try to say this forum is going to die otherwise, hell people have been saying this forum is going to die for the past 6 years now and while we aren't booming we are still standing and will continue to stand in my opinion, but in the end believe what you want but know that this policy is not going to change so there is no point advocating for it here.
Let me put an even further emphasis on the "there is no way capcom doesn't know about us" because they DEFINITELY DO know about modding. I spoke to two producers from Cacpom personally at Gamescom this year, those two being Matt Walker and Hideaki Itsuno (from the DMC5 team). I even brought up the modding community, and Matt's reaction was "oh yeah I know of it, I've heard of it". Capcom has been ok with I'd say 98% of modding so far. I say 98% and not 100% because a few guys who were doing modding for SFV exclusively for their Patreon backers got a DMCA/C&D strike. because they were receiving money to create content for a Capcom owned game. Capcom is well aware like TooCool mentioned of the forums and that people here are doing their work not to make money of it, or off capcom's games, but instead because they have a big love/passion for these games. If we started condoning piracy/posting links to illegal copies of the games or making/posting tools that allowed people to crack games or other things ofcourse capcom would take notice and action. I sadly didn't get to talk to anyone from the RE team back at gamescom, otherwise I probably would've talked to them about modding more, but as I mentionned Capcom has DMCAed/C&Ded modders who've made money of making mods. this forums (including the old address at z6.invisionfree) has been around for well over 10 years and we haven't received this treatment, when they're definitely well aware of us. As for the reverse engineering mentionned, yes it's true because tools had to be made to open container files like the .ARC format used by all MT Framework games. however this reverse engineering in no way allows people to get a free/cracked copy of the game, which is the main thing this forum is against (that and not allowing nudity). Also I can't help but laugh whenever I see people mention the "the forums are gonna die/is dying out" thing. I joined the old z6.invisionfree version of the modding forums back in 2009 and people were yelling it back then (holy fuck I've been a member for over 9 years, dear lord!) and they still are... WE'RE STILL HERE~! I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I never claimed Capcom doesn't know about modding lol In fact I implied the opposite. I also never said we should post links to full cracked copies/distribute the games illegally. I'm not even sure how the law stands on this and if a crack by itself is considered "piracy". I just suggested that maybe the forum would instead of going "oh noes, a cracked copy" to "well the copy is cracked, but that's just because we can't mod with Denuvo so it's not our place to judge if someone else's copy is illegal or not because we cannot prove the legitimacy". I'd totally understand for example if a tool that checks if your copy is pirated or not and locks down modding tools, was developed. It's not exactly ideal, but we're not in a exactly ideal situation. I think it's important to keep an open discussion regarding all of this, because Denuvo/DRM is the future of gaming, and therefore the future of modding, it goes way beyond just RE or Capcom. So instead of just going "DAMN PIRATES" I think we all need to take a breath first and keep our cool and weight in the pros and the cons in a mature manner so arrive at the best possible outcome/solution. I think we all need to realize that, no matter if one is supportive of piracy or not, we are all caught between a rock and a hard place. Also I don't see how you can laugh at the "community can die statement". If you truly have been a member for so long, even back to the days of the old forum, how can you say that it hasn't started to already? I'm sure you remember how much more active it used to be and how the number of modders has dropped drastically. Of course, I don't think the community will be 100% exterminated and we'll never see mods again, but that doesn't mean that any substantial modding is going to happen either. A good example is classic RE modding. It's not really dead, but it's far from alive and thriving either... And classic modding has the benefit of already having tons of tools and knowledge available, something that newer releases are starting to lack, not only because of engine updates or whatever, but because of the modders own instance. The fact we are having such a discussion is the ultimate example of it.
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Dec 3, 2018 7:30:24 GMT 10
[I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I never claimed Capcom doesn't know about modding lol In fact I implied the opposite. I also never said we should post links to full cracked copies/distribute the games illegally. I'm not even sure how the law stands on this and if a crack by itself is considered "piracy". I just suggested that maybe the forum would instead of going "oh noes, a cracked copy" to "well the copy is cracked, but that's just because we can't mod with Denuvo so it's not our place to judge if someone else's copy is illegal or not because we cannot prove the legitimacy". I'd totally understand for example if a tool that checks if your copy is pirated or not and locks down modding tools, was developed. It's not exactly ideal, but we're not in a exactly ideal situation. I think it's important to keep an open discussion regarding all of this, because Denuvo/DRM is the future of gaming, and therefore the future of modding, it goes way beyond just RE or Capcom. So instead of just going "DAMN PIRATES" I think we all need to take a breath first and keep our cool and weight in the pros and the cons in a mature manner so arrive at the best possible outcome/solution. I think we all need to realize that, no matter if one is supportive of piracy or not, we are all caught between a rock and a hard place. Also I don't see how you can laugh at the "community can die statement". If you truly have been a member for so long, even back to the days of the old forum, how can you say that it hasn't started to already? I'm sure you remember how much more active it used to be and how the number of modders has dropped drastically. Of course, I don't think the community will be 100% exterminated and we'll never see mods again, but that doesn't mean that any substantial modding is going to happen either. A good example is classic RE modding. It's not really dead, but it's far from alive and thriving either... And classic modding has the benefit of already having tons of tools and knowledge available, something that newer releases are starting to lack, not only because of engine updates or whatever, but because of the modders own instance. The fact we are having such a discussion is the ultimate example of it. It was not aimed at you. I was just stating it in general, my whole post was just aimed at the general forums and not at one person. I have to correct you on the denuovo state, there's plenty of games that use denuovo including games such as Marvel vs Capcom Infinite and Monster Hunter world, and both these games can be modded just fin. AND they're not the only ones. denuovo is an anti-piracy meassure. yes it gets cracked really fast, but denuovo's main goal is to protect the day 1 sales of games as a DRM/Anti-Piracy tool. it has no effect on mods (at least not for MvCi and MHW). "community can die statement" well there have been plenty of people saying that this community is dying, but if that truely were the case then the site would be terminated and not still see people on here. just look at the fact that in the past 24 hours there've been 140 members online and over 2500 guest visitors. I laugh because for over 9 years people have been saying it, even in the peak of this community. while yes there may be less activity and discussions that may just be that people are moving away as a whole from forum culture in general and not just this one There's a small group from this forums in a discord server, which sees daily activity, mainly regarding RE2 buzz. It doesn't mean this community is dying. there's still people modding the old re4 port on this site and people still modding games like re5&6 or REHD that have been released a while back. It seems to me that there's plenty of modders patiently waiting to get their hands on RE2Remake to get going again. one of the people that worked on the model tool (Codeman) hasn't been on this forums in a while, but when I last spoke to him on steam he said that he would be interested in maybe looking into RE2Remake (this is not me saying "CODEMAN WILL MAKE A TOOL". NO! that's not what I'm saying). to me it just seems that we're in an idle/transition period and waiting for new modding potential with RE2Remake to blast some new activity in here.
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