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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 24, 2017 23:32:06 GMT 10
OK, he we go, I have 2 copies of RE7 in my library. I have "RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard / BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil" just like 99% of you all have although for me it shows a "Biohazard 7" title screen ingame...  The second copy of RE7 I have is listed in my library as "BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil グロテスクVer." (but it is still stuck on "pre-loading") Google translate says that it is the grotesque version.  I noticed when playing "Biohazard 7" that the kitchen scene seems cut so hopefully the "Grotesque" version is what will become my main RE7 install. So looks like I will be modding "Biohazartd 7 Groteque Version" to be "Resident Evil 7" instead. Just wonder when the grotesque version will unlock in steam now. JP release date was the 26th off the top of my head, so. Yeah, I just found that out from someone else. I plan to make "biohazard 7 grotesque ver" my default install and to create a PS button mod and Biohazard > Resident Evil the title screen once we have tools available to us.
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Post by JacobMrox on Jan 25, 2017 1:21:23 GMT 10
Why is everyone still butthurt about first person? get over it, I've been stuck playing the classics for more than 10 years, over and over, never complained about Camera changes, I don't think camera makes a game good or bad, Fixed, 3rd or First person, as long as I can see the things I need to see I'm okay, AT LEAST it's not top-down view, eww. To be honest, Shinji Mikami was killin Resident Evil franchise by making it Nintendont Exclusive crap. You might want to google Capcom Five before throwing Mikami under the bus. Mikami? hahah! guy who bullied devs to leave the company so he can take credit for the ideas that made RE1 what it is, if it was for him it would be a first person shooter with cyborg ghost busters (no joke). And we all know and have proof how he said in an interview he'd cut his head off if RE4 released on any other platform aside from the GameCube. God riddance. OK, he we go, I have 2 copies of RE7 in my library. I have "RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard / BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil" just like 99% of you all have although for me it shows a "Biohazard 7" title screen ingame... The second copy of RE7 I have is listed in my library as "BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil グロテスクVer." (but it is still stuck on "pre-loading") Google translate says that it is the grotesque version. I noticed when playing "Biohazard 7" that the kitchen scene seems cut so hopefully the "Grotesque" version is what will become my main RE7 install. So looks like I will be modding "Biohazartd 7 Groteque Version" to be "Resident Evil 7" instead. Just wonder when the grotesque version will unlock in steam now. Japan = Censored Japan Grotesque = Uncensored like USA/EU USA/EU = Uncensored That's the whole difference really, no point in having them two, the grotesque version was made due to ratings differences in Japan, they had to make another version as the regular version will be censored (The game has leg cut and hand cut japan version in the US/EU version too | I suppose since this is when I checked the demo code). It's been known for a while.
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 25, 2017 1:32:23 GMT 10
Yeah, well my regular copy is the Japanese censored version as you can see from my title screen.
I'll have to wait a couple of days for the grotesque version to unlock to get the true experience.
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Post by JacobMrox on Jan 25, 2017 2:17:01 GMT 10
Yeah, well my regular copy is the Japanese censored version as you can see from my title screen. I'll have to wait a couple of days for the grotesque version to unlock to get the true experience. Really? can't you change it via steam properties for the game (I.E. Right click on game, properties, language) ? I thought that's the case, also this is the first RE Title to support Arabic text fully! But I still don't have the actual game, but that's how it is in the demo and how I can switch languages fully. 
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Post by Overseer on Jan 25, 2017 2:19:12 GMT 10
Why is everyone still butthurt about first person? Hm, let's see here... it couldn't possibly be the fact that a number of people get motion sick from first person games in general and for those sorts the fact that the games have been third-person has been a fairly decent point of interest? I mean, wouldn't you be kind of pissed off if it's a series you're used to playing and suddenly due to the change - you now get nausea from trying to play? Though you've also got the other problem that the enemy spawn pop-in, rubber-banding and AI pathing problems are even more obvious to spot too from this particular perspective too. Same for animation clipping, or lack of variety in them, sprites and so-on. And DarkSamus - we're in the same region if my memory is correct? I don't know why but it's been rather weird in terms of the grouping like on/off with getting the JP versions or the Asia versions of things. It would be nice for regions and/or regional store versions to at least offer the choice of which versions are legally available to that particular region for purchase in general instead of slapping them randomly over. Though that's partially as I'm lazy and get kind of sick of dealing with multiple regional accounts for things whenever I travel and want to keep playing stuff. Yeah, well my regular copy is the Japanese censored version as you can see from my title screen. I'll have to wait a couple of days for the grotesque version to unlock to get the true experience. Really? can't you change it via steam properties for the game (I.E. Right click on game, properties, language) ? I thought that's the case, also this is the first RE Title to support Arabic text fully! But I still don't have the actual game, but that's how it is in the demo and how I can switch languages fully. That's totally irrelevant. The language files are across all versions, but the menu and title calling as well as the required warning splashes are different depending on the actual regional version of the exe. Not what is denoted by the language sets in the data and/or via Steam as those are just going to the language pre-set options in the game settings. Like you can change the in-game language in say... Zero or Remake. But the voice over will be only available in English, the title will still remain as Resident Evil, the title call will also reflect this and any other regional censorship anomalies will remain for the 'true' region of it. Like 4's JP version has censored death sequences, though we all know about the old version trick to set the US, EU versions as JP to censor it but to trigger the fixed camera angles as that was just something still left in.
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Post by JacobMrox on Jan 25, 2017 2:54:24 GMT 10
Why is everyone still butthurt about first person? Hm, let's see here... it couldn't possibly be the fact that a number of people get motion sick from first person games in general and for those sorts the fact that the games have been third-person has been a fairly decent point of interest? I mean, wouldn't you be kind of pissed off if it's a series you're used to playing and suddenly due to the change - you now get nausea from trying to play? Though you've also got the other problem that the enemy spawn pop-in, rubber-banding and AI pathing problems are even more obvious to spot too from this particular perspective too. Same for animation clipping, or lack of variety in them, sprites and so-on. And DarkSamus - we're in the same region if my memory is correct? I don't know why but it's been rather weird in terms of the grouping like on/off with getting the JP versions or the Asia versions of things. It would be nice for regions and/or regional store versions to at least offer the choice of which versions are legally available to that particular region for purchase in general instead of slapping them randomly over. Though that's partially as I'm lazy and get kind of sick of dealing with multiple regional accounts for things whenever I travel and want to keep playing stuff. Really? can't you change it via steam properties for the game (I.E. Right click on game, properties, language) ? I thought that's the case, also this is the first RE Title to support Arabic text fully! But I still don't have the actual game, but that's how it is in the demo and how I can switch languages fully. That's totally irrelevant. The language files are across all versions, but the menu and title calling as well as the required warning splashes are different depending on the actual regional version of the exe. Not what is denoted by the language sets in the data and/or via Steam as those are just going to the language pre-set options in the game settings. Like you can change the in-game language in say... Zero or Remake. But the voice over will be only available in English, the title will still remain as Resident Evil, the title call will also reflect this and any other regional censorship anomalies will remain for the 'true' region of it. Like 4's JP version has censored death sequences, though we all know about the old version trick to set the US, EU versions as JP to censor it but to trigger the fixed camera angles as that was just something still left in. First responding to your initial response, I don't get motion sickness or nausea from FPS Games and a lot of people play those, that's very rare but for VR yes it happens to a lot of people especially since this game still lets you run and climb stairs in VR which is one of the reason of motion sickness in VR. Repetitive and lack of variety in animations? I don't think that's the case here, they are focusing on details of everything thanks to the first person view and its not like third person made things look better, look at RE4. As for language, I never said the opposite, I was specifically talking about "Game language setting" not "Regional version language / game edition language" because from what I understood he said his version is "Japanese" so I thought maybe it's set to Japanese, who knows, the title and all seem to be in English. For me Rev2/0 have the Biohazard title but it's ok, Biohazard is the actual original title and I love it. Resident Evil has been meaningless for years.
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 25, 2017 3:00:40 GMT 10
Yeah, well my regular copy is the Japanese censored version as you can see from my title screen. I'll have to wait a couple of days for the grotesque version to unlock to get the true experience. Really? can't you change it via steam properties for the game (I.E. Right click on game, properties, language) ? I thought that's the case, also this is the first RE Title to support Arabic text fully! But I still don't have the actual game, but that's how it is in the demo and how I can switch languages fully. Already set to English mate. Funny but the same was suggested to fix RE1 and RER2 but in all 3 cases it does not work to change the language for the game in steam. The only fix is to mod the title screen to use the RE title screen instead. As soon as we have tools available and I nail which file/s needs editing I will ask someone to provide the RE title screen so I can mod it over the Biohazard one.
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Post by JacobMrox on Jan 25, 2017 4:24:54 GMT 10
Really? can't you change it via steam properties for the game (I.E. Right click on game, properties, language) ? I thought that's the case, also this is the first RE Title to support Arabic text fully! But I still don't have the actual game, but that's how it is in the demo and how I can switch languages fully. Already set to English mate. Funny but the same was suggested to fix RE1 and RER2 but in all 3 cases it does not work to change the language for the game in steam. The only fix is to mod the title screen to use the RE title screen instead. As soon as we have tools available and I nail which file/s needs editing I will ask someone to provide the RE title screen so I can mod it over the Biohazard one. Yeah same for me, but as long as the game is in English it does not make any difference for me. Off-topic: Are you the one locking steam forum posts with people trading RE7 key?
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 25, 2017 4:27:17 GMT 10
Off-topic: Are you the one locking steam forum posts with people trading RE7 key? Nope
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Post by SAMI on Jan 25, 2017 6:36:10 GMT 10
Why is everyone still butthurt about first person? get over it, I've been stuck playing the classics for more than 10 years, over and over, never complained about Camera changes, I don't think camera makes a game good or bad, Fixed, 3rd or First person, as long as I can see the things I need to see I'm okay, AT LEAST it's not top-down view, eww.You might want to google Capcom Five before throwing Mikami under the bus. Mikami? hahah! guy who bullied devs to leave the company so he can take credit for the ideas that made RE1 what it is, if it was for him it would be a first person shooter with cyborg ghost busters (no joke). And we all know and have proof how he said in an interview he'd cut his head off if RE4 released on any other platform aside from the GameCube. God riddance. OK, he we go, I have 2 copies of RE7 in my library. I have "RESIDENT EVIL 7 biohazard / BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil" just like 99% of you all have although for me it shows a "Biohazard 7" title screen ingame... The second copy of RE7 I have is listed in my library as "BIOHAZARD 7 resident evil グロテスクVer." (but it is still stuck on "pre-loading") Google translate says that it is the grotesque version. I noticed when playing "Biohazard 7" that the kitchen scene seems cut so hopefully the "Grotesque" version is what will become my main RE7 install. So looks like I will be modding "Biohazartd 7 Groteque Version" to be "Resident Evil 7" instead. Just wonder when the grotesque version will unlock in steam now. Japan = Censored Japan Grotesque = Uncensored like USA/EU USA/EU = Uncensored That's the whole difference really, no point in having them two, the grotesque version was made due to ratings differences in Japan, they had to make another version as the regular version will be censored (The game has leg cut and hand cut japan version in the US/EU version too | I suppose since this is when I checked the demo code). It's been known for a while. Interesting you are saying camera dont make diffence and you enjoyed both FPS TPS and Fixed camera. But then you say "At LEAST its not top down view, EWW". According to your first statemebt, any camera is fibe since it doesn't make difference. I pray and hope Next Resident Evil is Top down View camera cause it doesnt matter. Also what you said, is simply an opinion. Not fact. Just like everyone else is whining here with their own positive amd negative opinions, including me. If camera didn't make differce, graphics wouldn't matter too. And we would still play at 320x240p at 256 colors in ddraw mode ca7se Gameplay only Matters, right  ?
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Post by ToCool74 on Jan 25, 2017 8:12:45 GMT 10
Ok after finally getting a chance to play the game (rented it from a local store) I can say that I don't really mind the first person camera as much as I thought I would, it makes sense because I really liked the Survivor and Dead Aim games which also incorporated first person camera, that being said I still would MUCH rather have either the fixed camera or third person camera back. One thing I have to say however is that enemy variety feels lacking in comparison to other Resident Evil titles, I really miss the Hunters,Crimson Heads,Zombies, Tyrants, Ceberus etc, this is something that even the Survivor games and Dead Aim had and those where side Resident Evil games in first person.
For a game that is "going back to its roots" I at least was hoping for some zombies at the very least.
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Post by JacobMrox on Jan 25, 2017 9:01:15 GMT 10
But then you say "At LEAST its not top down view, EWW". According to your first statemebt, any camera is fibe since it doesn't make difference. I pray and hope Next Resident Evil is Top down View camera cause it doesnt matter. Also what you said, is simply an opinion. Not fact. Just like everyone else is whining here with their own positive amd negative opinions, including me. If camera didn't make differce, graphics wouldn't matter too. And we would still play at 320x240p at 256 colors in ddraw mode ca7se Gameplay only Matters, right ? You're pathetic, read again what I've said, I said as long as I can see things clearly from my perspective it makes no difference, All that matters is for the camera to put your right into the action, topdown view camera is mostly for RPG games, go figure. I'm sure no one will like that. Ok after finally getting a chance to play the game (rented it from a local store) I can say that I don't really mind the first person camera as much as I thought I would, it makes sense because I really liked the Survivor and Dead Aim games which also incorporated first person camera, that being said I still would MUCH rather have either the fixed camera or third person camera back. One thing I have to say however is that enemy variety feels lacking in comparison to other Resident Evil titles, I really miss the Hunters,Crimson Heads,Zombies, Tyrants, Ceberus etc, this is something that even the Survivor games and Dead Aim had and those where side Resident Evil games in first person. For a game that is "going back to its roots" I at least was hoping for some zombies at the very least. This ^ but about Zombies, they are still in the universe, its just a different bio weapon now / virus creating those things (Molded) which are also technically similar to zombies with more grotesque appearance and different abilities and attacks. Each game introduced new enemy types so it's nothing new for the series, Vendetta still shows zombies and other classic enemies, reconstructed by Glenn Arias from the leftovers by Umbrella, Tricell and Neo Umbrella which I also believe links to the Umbrella Corps and RE7.
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Post by D on Jan 25, 2017 10:05:31 GMT 10
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 25, 2017 14:18:41 GMT 10
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Post by SAMI on Jan 25, 2017 16:32:27 GMT 10
But then you say "At LEAST its not top down view, EWW". According to your first statemebt, any camera is fibe since it doesn't make difference. I pray and hope Next Resident Evil is Top down View camera cause it doesnt matter. Also what you said, is simply an opinion. Not fact. Just like everyone else is whining here with their own positive amd negative opinions, including me. If camera didn't make differce, graphics wouldn't matter too. And we would still play at 320x240p at 256 colors in ddraw mode ca7se Gameplay only Matters, right ? You're pathetic, read again what I've said, I said as long as I can see things clearly from my perspective it makes no difference, All that matters is for the camera to put your right into the action, topdown view camera is mostly for RPG games, go figure. I'm sure no one will like that. Ok after finally getting a chance to play the game (rented it from a local store) I can say that I don't really mind the first person camera as much as I thought I would, it makes sense because I really liked the Survivor and Dead Aim games which also incorporated first person camera, that being said I still would MUCH rather have either the fixed camera or third person camera back. One thing I have to say however is that enemy variety feels lacking in comparison to other Resident Evil titles, I really miss the Hunters,Crimson Heads,Zombies, Tyrants, Ceberus etc, this is something that even the Survivor games and Dead Aim had and those where side Resident Evil games in first person. For a game that is "going back to its roots" I at least was hoping for some zombies at the very least. This ^ but about Zombies, they are still in the universe, its just a different bio weapon now / virus creating those things (Molded) which are also technically similar to zombies with more grotesque appearance and different abilities and attacks. Each game introduced new enemy types so it's nothing new for the series, Vendetta still shows zombies and other classic enemies, reconstructed by Glenn Arias from the leftovers by Umbrella, Tricell and Neo Umbrella which I also believe links to the Umbrella Corps and RE7. Yes I'm pathetic. I am also insane. But you're talkin as if FPS cam doesn't matter at all. It matters, okay? But there's nothing to do now anyway. Capcom fixed their minds. Back with RE4, many fans left or hated RE4 vecause of new camera. That new camera also attracted attention of many new gamers, like me. Now with RE7 again, many fans that got into this game because of TPS will leave. New FPS fans will come. You're also fine if you can see the action from your perpective. Back with RE 1, 2, 3 it will plain hard to see many enemies because of Fixed cam. I had to bump with zombies many times because I couldn't see what was infront of me. In that case, top down view adds more perspective than fixed cam. So top down view is fine. So is sides scrooling camera.
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