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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2017 13:54:32 GMT 10
All I see from the third person/1st person thing is "We want it and we should get what we want and the game company should listen to us" The game was made with THEIR intentions for it to be first person, its not about 'accept and forget' its more about realize games are made the way they're made in the devs visions, not how people who WILLINGLY pay for THEIR product want it to be. It'd be like telling an artist "Your art is good but can you change this aspect of the painting that it makes me dislike it a bit" like no, you pay for SOMEONE elses work, TL:DR They made the game the way they wanted, YOUR CHOICE to pay for it and low-key demand they give you an option for something they never intended on putting in it ITs okay to say you dislike it, but I see some mentioning they SHOULD give us an option for it, which they have no requirements too I dont like the fact there are very few enemies, but im not gonna blab around saying they SHOULD add more enemies Dunno, I pretty much love the game, so I guess my viewpoint is like a needle in a haystack here Artists make art for whatever reason they make it. We are the consumer, we pay for Capcom's bullshit, so we have a right to actually voice our opinions and desires. Stop trying to suppress meaningful requests and criticism with "MUH ARTISTIC INTEGRITY" and try to formulate an actual argument.
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Post by Hen on Feb 5, 2017 14:31:26 GMT 10
All I see from the third person/1st person thing is "We want it and we should get what we want and the game company should listen to us" The game was made with THEIR intentions for it to be first person, its not about 'accept and forget' its more about realize games are made the way they're made in the devs visions, not how people who WILLINGLY pay for THEIR product want it to be. It'd be like telling an artist "Your art is good but can you change this aspect of the painting that it makes me dislike it a bit" like no, you pay for SOMEONE elses work, TL:DR They made the game the way they wanted, YOUR CHOICE to pay for it and low-key demand they give you an option for something they never intended on putting in it ITs okay to say you dislike it, but I see some mentioning they SHOULD give us an option for it, which they have no requirements too I dont like the fact there are very few enemies, but im not gonna blab around saying they SHOULD add more enemies Dunno, I pretty much love the game, so I guess my viewpoint is like a needle in a haystack here Considering how many people have been crying since Re4 about how "Oh, it's not scary anymore, fix it now" and Capcom has tried twice (first by giving us zombies back in Re6, and then this...whatever you want to call this game), I don't think that's a good argument. Further, Capcom is making this game so me, and people like me buy it. I feel like, as the consumer and target audience, I have every right to offer criticism, especially when I shelled out a day and a half's pay for the game. Think about it: does it make any sense to say "Hey, this is my art, I'll make it my way" and then immediately say "Hey, please come buy this thing from me, but don't expect me to take your opinion into account; I only want your money." If you don't want to have an opinion, don't have an opinion. But don't tell other people they shouldn't have one. Note what I said, im only saying this because people are saying capcom SHOULD as if demanding they add it in a update soon, which is still relevant to my art comparison, it'd be like telling an artist to make the woman in the painting skinnier because thats what the consumer prefers even though he is the one paying for it WILLINGLY on something someone made with no intention for a custom purpose
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Post by A Jaded Lizard on Feb 5, 2017 14:35:45 GMT 10
Okay, I see what you mean, but do you see my point too?
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Post by Hen on Feb 5, 2017 14:38:29 GMT 10
Okay, I see what you mean, but do you see my point too? I guesS? im not trying to argue or say other opinions are wrong lol, just defending the consumer I purchase regularly from :S
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Post by A Jaded Lizard on Feb 5, 2017 14:49:35 GMT 10
Okay, I see what you mean, but do you see my point too? I guesS? im not trying to argue or say other opinions are wrong lol, just defending the consumer I purchase regularly from :S I didn't think you were; my whole series of arguments has been "Okay, you dun goofed, but here's where you could've done better, so maybe you don't goof so much next time."
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Post by sharontubul on Feb 5, 2017 15:50:19 GMT 10
I agree that video games are a form of art, but the difference here is that this game is commercial, commercial artwork, and it has many consumers.
There is also a component of "legacy" here, there is a whole franchise behind RE that stretches over more than two decades now, so they can't just make a whole new game and have buzzwords from previous RE games and call it a day, it just doesn't work like that. If this wasn't a RE game you can be sure I wouldn't spend a minute on it, and the first person feels like a lazy escspe for indie devs that can't animate a whole person realistically.
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Post by KamiA on Feb 5, 2017 16:21:26 GMT 10
Dying should matter again. Seriously, remove the checkpoints. You already have the tape machines, clearly you're trying to appeal to the older fans of the series who remember the ink ribbon saves, so why not go all the way through and make it so you can only save if you have a tape and are near one of the machines? Dying in Resident Evil used to mean something, but now doing it's a viable strategy to experiment with an encounter. Well , Isn't that what Madhouse difficulty mode is for?
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Post by SAMI on Feb 5, 2017 18:30:25 GMT 10
All I see from the third person/1st person thing is "We want it and we should get what we want and the game company should listen to us" The game was made with THEIR intentions for it to be first person, its not about 'accept and forget' its more about realize games are made the way they're made in the devs visions, not how people who WILLINGLY pay for THEIR product want it to be. It'd be like telling an artist "Your art is good but can you change this aspect of the painting that it makes me dislike it a bit" like no, you pay for SOMEONE elses work, TL:DR They made the game the way they wanted, YOUR CHOICE to pay for it and low-key demand they give you an option for something they never intended on putting in it ITs okay to say you dislike it, but I see some mentioning they SHOULD give us an option for it, which they have no requirements too I dont like the fact there are very few enemies, but im not gonna blab around saying they SHOULD add more enemies Dunno, I pretty much love the game, so I guess my viewpoint is like a needle in a haystack here Right, thanks for the advice. Seems like I wont buy RE then. Hate short expensive games that follow up with more expensive DLCs and hate FPS. And since requesting an option for adding OPTIONAL 3rd cam is against the law, I have no choice but to look for other games.
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Post by Hen on Feb 5, 2017 20:25:32 GMT 10
All I see from the third person/1st person thing is "We want it and we should get what we want and the game company should listen to us" The game was made with THEIR intentions for it to be first person, its not about 'accept and forget' its more about realize games are made the way they're made in the devs visions, not how people who WILLINGLY pay for THEIR product want it to be. It'd be like telling an artist "Your art is good but can you change this aspect of the painting that it makes me dislike it a bit" like no, you pay for SOMEONE elses work, TL:DR They made the game the way they wanted, YOUR CHOICE to pay for it and low-key demand they give you an option for something they never intended on putting in it ITs okay to say you dislike it, but I see some mentioning they SHOULD give us an option for it, which they have no requirements too I dont like the fact there are very few enemies, but im not gonna blab around saying they SHOULD add more enemies Dunno, I pretty much love the game, so I guess my viewpoint is like a needle in a haystack here Right, thanks for the advice. Seems like I wont buy RE then. Hate short expensive games that follow up with more expensive DLCs and hate FPS. And since requesting an option for adding OPTIONAL 3rd cam is against the law, I have no choice but to look for other games. ![]()  You read what I wrote and took it way out of context
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Post by A Jaded Lizard on Feb 6, 2017 4:11:05 GMT 10
Dying should matter again. Seriously, remove the checkpoints. You already have the tape machines, clearly you're trying to appeal to the older fans of the series who remember the ink ribbon saves, so why not go all the way through and make it so you can only save if you have a tape and are near one of the machines? Dying in Resident Evil used to mean something, but now doing it's a viable strategy to experiment with an encounter. Well , Isn't that what Madhouse difficulty mode is for? I've not tried Madhouse yet, but from what I understand it's mainly just Re2's Arrange Mode, which took a good but predictable game but made it harder; doing the same thing to Re7 just adds artificial difficulty to a game that's already cheap.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 4:45:36 GMT 10
Madhouse adds nothing of note barring some artificial difficulty and a few misplaced items.
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Post by A Jaded Lizard on Feb 6, 2017 6:15:42 GMT 10
Madhouse adds nothing of note barring some artificial difficulty and a few misplaced items. That's about what I expected.
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Post by DarkSamus on Feb 6, 2017 13:13:21 GMT 10
Right, thanks for the advice. Seems like I wont buy RE then. Hate short expensive games that follow up with more expensive DLCs and hate FPS. And since requesting an option for adding OPTIONAL 3rd cam is against the law, I have no choice but to look for other games. ![]() You read what I wrote and took it way out of context Don't worry, SAMI is just a prick that has done nothing but bad mouth Capcom since RE7 was announced. He trolls the RE7 threads here and twists everything you say to be a reason to hate on the game. The guy needs to get a life.
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Post by DarkSamus on Feb 6, 2017 13:17:10 GMT 10
Madhouse adds nothing of note barring some artificial difficulty and a few misplaced items. Bullshit, the game is WAY tougher, objects are moved and tapes are needed to save. The game is more like RE1 then ever on Madhouse mode. Madhouse mode is the way Capcom intends the game to be played.
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Post by SAMI on Feb 6, 2017 14:59:02 GMT 10
![]() You read what I wrote and took it way out of context Don't worry, SAMI is just a prick that has done nothing but bad mouth Capcom since RE7 was announced. He trolls the RE7 threads here and twists everything you say to be a reason to hate on the game. The guy needs to get a life. Yeah, I'm a prick. But all I'm saying that how it becomes a problem if we have optional 3rd person cam or even fixed cam? If they make a 3rd Person cam DLC, I'm willing to pay for it. But yeah, 3rd person cam can be achievable by modding the game. But first, Ethan needs a head to begin with. Ethan has his head shadow, so doesn't that mean Ethan already has a head? By the way, I'm already havin a life 
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