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Post by MatthewMacDaddy127 on Sept 8, 2020 8:26:17 GMT 10
Before I ask the question I want to clarify that I absolutely LOVE your work with the face and outfit alone!!
I did want to make a request which is if you could make a version of Claire with the same exact everything but add those long gloves. Im sorry if it seems that im not grateful for your outstanding undeserved work, it was just a simple request and nothing more. If the answer is no I'm completely fine with that.
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Post by dddvg4 on Sept 8, 2020 8:55:51 GMT 10
Love all the new changes 100% What's wrong with the vest? I think it looks great, the textures need to be improved, but I'm sure you already know that. i feel like it looks kinda unrealistic, i'm gonna do some tweaks to her default classic jacket to see what happens. ______________________ lean36 not my first mod, i know how to do this stuff since like 2016/2017 we use 3d max to make this stuff and honestly is pretty hard especially if you dont understand english. now for what you want to do (modelling) there's plenty programs for that, zbrush, maya, blender also there's a lot of videos in spanish. if you have any other doubt you can send me a mp since we both know spanish, i can help you with whatever you want. ______________________ dddvg4 might be the angles idk? but with this new change her face doesn't look so weird during cutscenes because the more her cheeks looks like the default the better. some mods get rid of all the fattness of her face forgetting that all that fattness is not only in her mesh is also in the nrmr texture, that's why it looks odd during cutscenes. i still can do more tweaks is not too late also i noticed that i been working in this mod in months lol but everyday i'm working on it <3 her vestless outfit 95% done (i need to find some good gloves) face 80% done (due the dirt textures and maybe the cheeks) default hair 90% done (needs rigging) the vest version 50% done (since im not convinced with her vest im gonna try to tweak the default) WOW This comparison is just stunning!! Cuz....this reminds me how out of place the original face was.... I swear I never think she was this bad until there is a direct comparison So I think it was the angle which makes she looks different from the DC Claire. But I do think her cheek is still a little off compared to the DC one. The DC's cheeks look more flat to the side or even to the front. Like the screenshot that you uploaded last time: I also compared the lips with a bunch of DC screenshots including the ones you posted on top of this thread. I think she might need slightly thicker+wider lips too. (or just wider since I think the thickness difference is not as obvious) Other than these I think she is basically identical to DC/Degeneration Claire! And now that I check the top of this thread again, I realize your mod has improved so much during the development!! Great work and very happy to see that you are willing to seek for perfection P.S. BTW, I am actually liking the current face a lot. She looks so cute! The above suggestions are just for a more accurate recreation of DC Claire. Do you mind releasing the current build when you finish the mod? as an alternative face? Cuz I would be sad to see her gone once the final version come out haha
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Post by dddvg4 on Sept 8, 2020 9:13:14 GMT 10
i feel like it looks kinda unrealistic, i'm gonna do some tweaks to her default classic jacket to see what happens. ______________________ lean36 not my first mod, i know how to do this stuff since like 2016/2017 we use 3d max to make this stuff and honestly is pretty hard especially if you dont understand english. now for what you want to do (modelling) there's plenty programs for that, zbrush, maya, blender also there's a lot of videos in spanish. if you have any other doubt you can send me a mp since we both know spanish, i can help you with whatever you want. ______________________ dddvg4 might be the angles idk? but with this new change her face doesn't look so weird during cutscenes because the more her cheeks looks like the default the better. some mods get rid of all the fattness of her face forgetting that all that fattness is not only in her mesh is also in the nrmr texture, that's why it looks odd during cutscenes. i still can do more tweaks is not too late also i noticed that i been working in this mod in months lol but everyday i'm working on it <3 her vestless outfit 95% done (i need to find some good gloves) face 80% done (due the dirt textures and maybe the cheeks) default hair 90% done (needs rigging) the vest version 50% done (since im not convinced with her vest im gonna try to tweak the default) Sorry this is too long so I split into 2 parts lol These are some Degeneration pics with the same angle as your mod screenshots that I used to compare the cheek and lips. I think all of them shows a flatter cheek. I can't find the exact angle for DC/ORC Claire, but I think they are pretty similar. For the lips, I think the middle pic shows wider lips than the WIP version and it is almost the identical to DC Claire. Other than these, I don't see any difference from your mod and the official classic face XD Thanks again for listening~
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Post by Đ4RK ĐR4GØN on Sept 8, 2020 14:46:24 GMT 10
Hello again, sorry for the stupid question, but will you make the face of Claire from degeneration along with the clothes?
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Post by kysanphire on Sept 9, 2020 1:35:18 GMT 10
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Post by Zkys3dge on Sept 9, 2020 2:32:54 GMT 10
Speaking about the face again... I'm pretty sure this hasn't been mentioned yet, but I think the tear ducts on your face mod look a little extreme, here's a comparison
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Post by kysanphire on Sept 9, 2020 5:17:10 GMT 10
Hello again, sorry for the stupid question, but will you make the face of Claire from degeneration along with the clothes? that would be so cool , this is really becoming my most anticipated mod ! the degeneration face and clothes were always my fav rendition it would be the cherry on top of this awesome mod
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Post by Đ4RK ĐR4GØN on Sept 9, 2020 10:50:00 GMT 10
Hello again, sorry for the stupid question, but will you make the face of Claire from degeneration along with the clothes? that would be so cool , this is really becoming my most anticipated mod ! the degeneration face and clothes were always my fav rendition it would be the cherry on top of this awesome mod yes, i'm also waiting a lot for this mod, if it comes with the clothes it would be even better XD
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Post by chiarav1 on Sept 10, 2020 12:43:54 GMT 10
Looking good, maybe you could use Valerie's biker gloves from her Hay There costume in Resistance (pl1210) Resistance has some really useful models thanks for the suggestion! i also thought on this gloves, at first i wasn't too sure, but i think they look good. so vestless version 100% done about the tear ducts lol you right!! i was using ada's texture in that part anyways i think is not the right one too so i already change that. not too sure if this is the right one but i'll be working on it, my idea was simulate those ''eyebags'' of her dsc version. MatthewMacDaddy127 my friend rain395 is gonna help me to do some variations so maybe . dddvg4 ahh here we have problems D: like i mentioned the more her cheeks look like the default the better and this is not so noticeable in gameplay but during some cutscenes she looks really off, anyways i tried using her orc shape as reference since i think that even if that model is really bad is the most alike with dg/dsc claire the result this one i also been trying to improve her texture cuz the other one looks too ''perfect'' this one has more details. Đ4RK ĐR4GØN No, im not trying to make her degeneration's face im just trying to make a recognizable claire, so this is like a mix between dg/dsc about the clothes idk i wanted to do her CV outfit along with the secretary outfit from mercenaries 3d but at this step is gonna take until 2021, so maybe for an update when i've finally done with this?
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Post by rubyofblue on Sept 10, 2020 13:20:56 GMT 10
For some reason this is giving me nostalgia from when RE games still used MT Framework
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Post by rain395 on Sept 10, 2020 18:46:49 GMT 10
For some reason this is giving me nostalgia from when RE games still used MT Framework The RE Engine is beautiful, not gonna lie, but I really miss the MT Framework style graphics. They mixed the realism with the "videogame-ness". Now it's all just "muh realism" lol Yeah, I prefer MT Framework, for both RE and DMC (DMC still looked great with it but I prefer DMC4 art style and graphics). But RE Engine worked great for RE7, as an example. I feel like the transition to RE Engine also limited the creativity they could achieve with the remakes. But just my thoughts.
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Post by dddvg4 on Sept 12, 2020 8:36:04 GMT 10
Looking good, maybe you could use Valerie's biker gloves from her Hay There costume in Resistance (pl1210) Resistance has some really useful models thanks for the suggestion! i also thought on this gloves, at first i wasn't too sure, but i think they look good. so vestless version 100% done about the tear ducts lol you right!! i was using ada's texture in that part anyways i think is not the right one too so i already change that. not too sure if this is the right one but i'll be working on it, my idea was simulate those ''eyebags'' of her dsc version. MatthewMacDaddy127 my friend rain395 is gonna help me to do some variations so maybe . dddvg4 ahh here we have problems D: like i mentioned the more her cheeks look like the default the better and this is not so noticeable in gameplay but during some cutscenes she looks really off, anyways i tried using her orc shape as reference since i think that even if that model is really bad is the most alike with dg/dsc claire the result this one i also been trying to improve her texture cuz the other one looks too ''perfect'' this one has more details. Đ4RK ĐR4GØN No, im not trying to make her degeneration's face im just trying to make a recognizable claire, so this is like a mix between dg/dsc about the clothes idk i wanted to do her CV outfit along with the secretary outfit from mercenaries 3d but at this step is gonna take until 2021, so maybe for an update when i've finally done with this? As always awesome update news this is!!! And I see what you mean. If it is hard to balance on "changing her cheek" VS "look natural in cutscenes", I think you know better on how to balance than us. So just go with your preference ORC in game model I actually have no idea is it close or not lol Cuz it just looks very off. When I search for ORC pictures I only look for the CG rendered ones, they are bascially identical to DC Claire lol BTW The right hand side comparison with DG Claire is basically identical. Godlike buddy
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Post by iiicroftiii on Sept 19, 2020 14:31:07 GMT 10
Helloo theree just popping by to see how is it going xD So pumped up for Claire
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Post by lean36 on Sept 20, 2020 14:03:10 GMT 10
Hi, are you close to finishing the mod?
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Post by chiarav1 on Sept 20, 2020 16:35:56 GMT 10
Helloo theree just popping by to see how is it going xD So pumped up for Claire Heyyy sorry for the late reply D; the things are going slow but they are looking good so far i made a mistake super stupid that it took me a lot of time to fix, in the vest texture there wasnt enough space so i took another texture thinking that would work but the textures looked so bad, like they were missing details and thanks to that i had to redo the whole textures again and since i didn't want to lost quality i had to do the textures with a super high quality, this is good for one side but i guess that this will consume more performance of the game (for potatoes pc) my laptop is not the greatest so i hope this is not a big deal for any pc. anyways i been doing some little tweaks to her face specifically her mouth because i noticed that claire's mouth is something like this 3: and the mod mouth was something like this I: this may sound dumb but these little details matter a lot, i didnt noticed because not in all of her pics is noticiable same with the shape of her eyes (that was the hardest part ) and with this change im just gonna start to do the dirt textures or im gonna take 100 years D: im happy with the face so idk what else i can improve. for her vest this is what i got the default one with some changes (the buttons, the color, and a different shape)i want to do her buttons more metallic and finishing that and fixing some rigging stuff we're done. lean36 almost.
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