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Post by DarkSamus on Apr 13, 2020 1:55:38 GMT 10
WTF? Why no Code Veronica?
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Post by curtisday on Apr 13, 2020 2:12:02 GMT 10
Code Veronica, RE1, RE0, Outbreak....these are all games I'd like to see remade first. Personally I'd love more stuff related to Raccoon City. Regardless of how much RE4 is loved, I wish they didn't blow up RC at the end of 3 and they continued that story more. Almost like ignore 4 onward and create a new timeline. I feel like this would have been the perfect time to expand the canon around the original games and Capcom has missed the mark so hard. The RE2 DLC's could have been actual short scenarios for each character instead of cheesy "what if" situations. Especially for Kendo since we didn't see him die in game. RE3 was too short and the huge areas from Resistance could have been worked into RE3 to expand the city and RC lure. So many missed opportunities.
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Post by Kazserah on Apr 13, 2020 9:18:55 GMT 10
I hope it's an actual remake like REmake and not a "re-imagining"...every single area/room/set-piece is memorable. If it's rushed like RE3 with areas/enemies cut out I will never forgive them.
Code Veronica should have been remade instead...but that wouldn't bring in the $$$
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Post by verdugo7 on Apr 13, 2020 14:27:37 GMT 10
I hope this game is TRUE to the original. Like how 2007's COD4:MW got remastered by Raven Software through COD4 MWR. That is one of the best remaster for a game for me.
Honestly RE4 as a game game doesn't need a "reimagining", maybe it just needs next-gen treatment regarding graphics, sounds, etc so it can keep up to today's standards, just like COD4.
RE4 as a game itself has SO MUCH to offer, lots of memorable areas (room/maps), lots of guns, lots enemy types, music, lots of treasure, items, and lots of extra contents. I hope they won't cut anything out to this masterpiece.
By seeing how RE3 got treated, I hope they won't massacre my boy. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by -IronSoul- on Apr 13, 2020 14:32:55 GMT 10
i feel so happy for the RE4 fans out there, even tough i don't like the game at all, i really wanted to see a code veronica remake.
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Post by DarkSamus on Apr 13, 2020 16:35:33 GMT 10
If true and Capcom screw it up, we will still have the Steam version with Cris/Alberts mod to enjoy.
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Post by verdugo7 on Apr 13, 2020 17:28:25 GMT 10
If true and Capcom screw it up, we will still have the Steam version with Cris/Alberts mod to enjoy. Absolutely, their work is the most impressive job a fan could've done for the game that they love the most.
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Post by Kazserah on Apr 13, 2020 23:31:32 GMT 10
I hope this game is TRUE to the original. Like how 2007's COD4:MW got remastered by Raven Software through COD4 MWR. That is one of the best remaster for a game for me. Honestly RE4 as a game game doesn't need a "reimagining", maybe it just needs next-gen treatment regarding graphics, sounds, etc so it can keep up to today's standards, just like COD4. RE4 as a game itself has SO MUCH to offer, lots of memorable areas (room/maps), lots of guns, lots enemy types, music, lots of treasure, items, and lots of extra contents. I hope they won't cut anything out to this masterpiece. By seeing how RE3 got treated, I hope they won't massacre my boy. Keeping my fingers crossed. MWR is my favorite remaster as well. Raven did a fantastic job. That's exactly what I want too.
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Post by verdugo7 on Apr 14, 2020 3:46:57 GMT 10
If they removed the giant spiders from the current remakes I can't see them leaving the huge ogres and such in a re4 remake. I think it'll sell well but I think they'll change it and the core fans won't be pleased. I love the game but not as an RE game. I feel like it's too much a departure from the Raccoon City stuff. I'll still buy it of course lol. RE game isn't just rotating around Raccoon City, my friend. RE4 was a masterpiece, and I say it both as a game and as a RE game. It's got most RE characteristics in it. Backtracking? Check. Mutation? Check. Horror? Check. Suspense? Check. One-liners? Check. Puzzles? Check. Returning characters? Check. B.O.Ws? Check. Yes it's got action in it but it is perfectly executed and is balanced with horror of the game. The only game I don't feel RE-ish is RE7. It is just nonsense to me if people call RE4 "not a good RE game" just because it has 3rd person camera and it wasn't set on Raccoon City.
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Post by reiko26 on Apr 24, 2020 20:38:01 GMT 10
after seeing what capcom did to re3r, you can expect same bull from their attempt on re4r. is the same team. they havent even addressed the fans about the bad reivews and negative critics of 3. i feel before they tiouch another entry and screw it up, they should listen to us like the guys did with re2r. now if it was those guys that made re2r doing the re4r then id be a litlle at ease but not 100%. i dont know guys, just something tells me that it wont live up to the original. i mean heck we all see the direction capcom is going now with RE. re2r seemed like we had light at the end of the tunnel then with re3r, it vanished that quickly. well, atleast it did for me. id like to hear you alls opinion
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Post by Kazserah on Apr 25, 2020 15:08:03 GMT 10
after seeing what capcom did to re3r, you can expect same bull from their attempt on re4r. is the same team. they havent even addressed the fans about the bad reivews and negative critics of 3. i feel before they tiouch another entry and screw it up, they should listen to us like the guys did with re2r. now if it was those guys that made re2r doing the re4r then id be a litlle at ease but not 100%. i dont know guys, just something tells me that it wont live up to the original. i mean heck we all see the direction capcom is going now with RE. re2r seemed like we had light at the end of the tunnel then with re3r, it vanished that quickly. well, atleast it did for me. id like to hear you alls opinion Yep you got that right. It's because RE3 was developed by a different studio called M-Two. And they are giving RE4 to them as well, despite all the mixed feedback. Hopefully they change their mind and develop it internally. And they need to take their time. Rumored projected date is 2022, that isn't nearly enough time to properly remake it.
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Post by reiko26 on Apr 25, 2020 21:07:38 GMT 10
yeah M-Two being the ones remaking re4r is a disaserous idea sadly. maybe after capcom acesses the bad reviews then they may reconsider or put it to a hault or atleast as you said, take more time and care to make sure its good enough for the fans. their objective should be to out do the original like re1r did the original. they should take that for example bc at that rate, M-Two made lead capcom back towards bankrupt with that lazy half stepping on projects. we as fans were looking for a legitimate re3r not a re2.6 remake
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Post by Adngel on Apr 26, 2020 2:34:28 GMT 10
I lament being again in the oposite shore, but, why are you giving so much credits to these rumours, Is there any oficial announcement?, or Is thery any actual and trustful source involved?. Years ago, there was a popular speech, "Don't believe what you see on internet", what have changed?
Maybe, I can be... too sceptic, (yeah, I came from science branch) but I´m reading these things and I'm actually finding around the kind red flags that appears when there are fake news.
1- We don't know who publish, info goes from anonymous people, tabloids (many of them just copy the info between themselves) and editors that buys articles from outsiders. (who tells me that an article that appears on different of these webs, were not written by the first person? the dates are quite close...) I don't know, but usually I distrust of those big exclusives that are only told by those "niche" web editors.
2- Is the article profesional? reading many of them, I find the title, quite impressive and alarming, reading the content, start to find different tone, speaking different gossips around, (and sometimes, even rewriting and redirecting to olders articles not related with the "alarming title"...)... real clickbaits. O_ò
3- False quotes, (well, I say they are false because they are quotes without any specification of who, where and when they were told, so, are they real quotes or just author's theater?).
4- Is really coherent? This Capcom giving green light to RE4 few weeks after the launch of the last game, is the same Capcom that is doing a survey till beggining of May to see what are the fans intention in relation to future RE games, and is also the same company waited some years after DmC to decide the development of Devil May Cry 5, and also waited some months (near 6 months) after RE6 to see the public reaction before to decide new projects, (Basically they proceded to RE7 designs and RE:Rev2 after the launch in PS3 of RE:Rev1). That same Capcom that took such burocratic analysis, is also doing this RE4 sudden decision? Really noone smell that as something "fishy"?
There are reasons why there are fake news in the web - 1st because it's lucrative, (adverts in the websites and tabloids do payments for each visitors, i.e. each time someone does click to enter in several pages, there are people gaining money) Dropping controversial topics like these, helps them more visitors than sharing the normal and honest review (than other editors are also sharing). - 2nd to extend the brand, when you haven't got any exclusivity, invent it, people will go for the fake one but some of them may remember the website for a future search. (That also include popularity, some people telling lies to earn fame, sometime for mere fun, other times with second intention like to promote an independent project). - 3rd for ideology, well, politics, that's a never ending topic, and with tons of daily examples..
I understand that when there are not news, rumours could promote a debates, opinions and conversations, nothing wrong with that, (I´m agree that RE4remake looks a future deception too) but, we shall not forget the source of the info is not real nor verified. Remember that before to get frustrated or upset. Also remember that before to judge Capcom. Sure the company has dissapointed me and failed me these last years, I´m angry with them, but I don't want to scold them for things that they have not done, I consider that unfair. And this RE4 remake greenlight and RE8 village concept, there is nothing reliable to believe them... so is there any real reason to upset for them or complain to Capcom?
Am I missing any important evidence? why are these rumours getting so much credit?
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Post by irememberjeep on May 1, 2020 12:04:45 GMT 10
yeah M-Two being the ones remaking re4r is a disaserous idea sadly. maybe after capcom acesses the bad reviews then they may reconsider or put it to a hault or atleast as you said, take more time and care to make sure its good enough for the fans. their objective should be to out do the original like re1r did the original. they should take that for example bc at that rate, M-Two made lead capcom back towards bankrupt with that lazy half stepping on projects. we as fans were looking for a legitimate re3r not a re2.6 remake ^This
RE3R is disappointing and that's me being nice. I'm not saying it's terrible but it's absolutely a disgrace for that studio and CAPCOM and those of us who put the original RE3 in our top games list. I was looking for the same care and detail that was given to REHD & RE2R. If I wanted half a game, one missing a good portion of a story, I'd buy something from EA Bioware.
I think before they even consider RE4 they try and make up a bit for RE3R and release some free DLC. Too bad no studio has the balls to recall a game to fix it, or release a DLC that corrects such a big mistake like the cutting of so much content.
In any case I'd much rather RE:CV be remade. Not only is it an older game but I never had the chance to play the original. I've watched the full gameplay run and it looks amazing, much better than RE4 was in my opinion. Not that I don't like Leon but RE4 was the beginning of the downward slide for RE. Going from survival-horror to boulder punching generic action games.
Sigh...
Don't worry everyone, when I become a millionaire I'm going to either buy CAPCOM or the rights to Resident Evil and make sure they not only take future games in the right direction but remaster older games in the proper way and at the direction of the Resident Evil community.
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Post by bloodyhunter on May 1, 2020 21:13:17 GMT 10
I'm all with with Adngel ! This is a rumour, nothing more. Same goes for "RE VIIlage"... Loads of small websites just (re)write articles or rely news that will generate more traffic, they just don't care whether the source of these rumours is reliable or not. As for DuskGolem, I'm still sceptical. He was right about a lot of things in the past but at the end of the day he's supposedly just sharing info someone reported to him. That person could still lie or hear fake info reagarding the upcoming games. Or you never know, he could be a good b*llshitter making the right assumptions (some "news" about the development of RE2 weren't really "news", for instance, they were just common sense). In short: try not to give credit to everything you read or see on the Internet. Anyway, if the rumours about RE4 Remake are true (and I really, really hope they aren't), we can be pretty sure that Capcom has shot themselves in the foot. RE4 divided the fan base because of its gameplay and by threwing away the whole Umbrella story arc. It would be 2003 all over again now that the franchise is finally back on track. Not to mention that they aren't making remakes but reimaginings, so a lot of people would be pissed if they'd cut all the silly stuff in RE4 (I'd be all for it but there's too much to be cut, the game would completely lose its identity). I only see them reimagining CV since it doesn't hold up well on a lot of levels. And if they really want to remake RE4, they could just resurrect one the betas that were dropped due to technical limitations. At least those were true sequels.
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