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Post by qazwsxedv on Dec 10, 2018 0:33:38 GMT 10
Problems: 1-No mods yet for the RE Engine and that will cause no more mods for the upcoming games 2-Dead links because of the modder who taking down there links 3-No new mods for the most of the games
So if you have any solutions for this problems comment about it below or if you see other problems that it need a solutions comment about it below to help the forum to be better
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Post by ToCool74 on Dec 10, 2018 2:48:03 GMT 10
Problems: 1-No mods yet for the RE Engine and that will cause no more mods for the upcoming games 2-Dead links because of the modder who taking down there links 3-No new mods for the most of the games So if you have any solutions for this problems comment about it below or if you see other problems that it need a solutions comment about it below to help the forum to be better
1-As far as this problem goes this is due to a general lack of interest in modding RE7 all around as well as Denuvo making modding the game harder, there really is no "solution" to this problem, RE2 may be different since the more experienced modders who make the tools may feel more motivated to find new ways to hack it depending on if it peaks their interest so in short just because RE7 did not get mods here does not automatically mean we will not see mods for RE2 remake. 2-As far as dead links goes because a modder took his down, fact we still have a very large number of mods still active so its not like the forum is lacking mods in the slightest, what happened with those modders taking down their mods is due to their own personal feelings that simply can not be solved as a "problem" since that was their call, sure we could ignore their wishes and upload the mods we have already downloaded but that would just come across as disrespectful towards their work hence why we generally do not do this. 3-Regarding this one, we do actually have mods getting release, not in large quantities but there ARE mods still being released on this forum so this "problem" isn't exactly a problem either.
Pretty much what we have currently is a general lack of interest in modding as opposed to what we had at its height during the RE4,RE5, and RE6 days but the fact remains that while its not exactly booming it is by no means dying or dead since we still have activity as well as modders releasing their work and helping others even if the frequency of this isn't no where as near as it used to be. At this point the whole "forum dying" thing is starting to come across as fear mongering since I've been seeing a lot of this lately, we have been having members say the forum is "dying" for the past 8 years now and yet here we are still standing even if diminished and we will continue to stand hence why I don't think this topic helps much at all.
The main thing at this point that the forum needs is a Resident Evil game to come out that peaks the interest and motivates the modders and coders really get back their passion for the series to release some great mods and tools which in turn will bring the fans and activity up, pretty much we just have to wait and see if games like Resident Evil 2 remake or future entries turn out to be that catalyst.
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Post by Crazy Potato on Dec 13, 2018 13:50:13 GMT 10
Problems: 1-No mods yet for the RE Engine and that will cause no more mods for the upcoming games 2-Dead links because of the modder who taking down there links 3-No new mods for the most of the games So if you have any solutions for this problems comment about it below or if you see other problems that it need a solutions comment about it below to help the forum to be better I'm Currently Working on 1. Full model and sound conversion for Lady Hunk (Rev1) 2. STARS model for Moira (Rev2) 3. Gun mods (Rev1 and Rev2) 4. Rebecca Model Mod (0 HD) 5. Noir Claire (Rev2) There's gonna be content but I'm not sure if these games are the ones you own/like playing most. _____ Dead Links happen when modders upload to sites with expiration dates or their accounts get banned/void due to inactivity or host changes they don't remove it the host does in most cases. _____ I think in the order to most active in terms of modding goes like so 1. 4 2. 5 3. 6 4. Rev1 5. Rev2 6. 1 HD Remake 7. 0 HD Remake 8. RE7 _____ The forums are not active at times due to just real life events. Modding is a hobby and not a job for us, we have projects in other areas too so things get put on hold at times.
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Post by Zealot Tormunds on Dec 16, 2018 16:12:18 GMT 10
I wouldn't say this forum is dying. I'm not an active member at all really, so I don't know the exact situation, but I do visit other forums and let me tell you, I've seen way worse. This forum seems to have daily activity. That's more than what I can say about other sites.
Plus I'm sure RE2:Remake will bring some more activity back here.
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Dec 30, 2018 21:58:19 GMT 10
Problems: 1-No mods yet for the RE Engine and that will cause no more mods for the upcoming games 2-Dead links because of the modder who taking down there links 3-No new mods for the most of the games So if you have any solutions for this problems comment about it below or if you see other problems that it need a solutions comment about it below to help the forum to be better I've seen this topic of conversation pop-up in multiple places around this forum now, and in a way I see where it's coming from but in a way I also can't help but wonder why it's something that so many people keep asking/saying. anyway here's what I think about this situation. 1-modders didn't really have a big interest in RE7 not because of the new engine but because of the game. first person perspective. most of the mods on this forums for models are model imports or reskins of playable characters. why would one put a lot of work into a character mod when the mod is replacing an NPC character that's on screen for 5 minutes out of the X hour long experience? re2remake is not first person, and has a cast of characters we know. this will more likely drive modders to try and make modding tools. 2-I don't have an arguement for this, mainly because like TooCool said it is their choice to take down their work no matter the reason. and we should respect their choice to no longer share their work whether we like and/or agree with that choice or not. 3-it may be less but every game in the series (on MT framework + re4 (BOTH VERSIONS!)) continues to be modded on this site. but it's just like the number of players playing a game after release it always starts with a peak and goes down from there. but it doesn't mean there isn't any or that things are dead/dying out. honestly in my opinion the solution is time. we're less than a month away from the release of RE2Remake. when it comes out it'll bring people back over. that's how it always goes with new releases.
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Jan 3, 2019 1:54:16 GMT 10
the modders who taking there link down is because them being an assholes that is the reason just because you don't agree with them it doesn't make them an asshole. people acting like this towards modders is why they're taking things down (not all of them but I certainly know some that did)
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Post by Mr.Curious on Jan 3, 2019 10:44:53 GMT 10
lol I'm literally making an entirely new game on the RE4UHD engine.
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 4, 2019 23:21:54 GMT 10
At least 10 new members sign up to the forums every day. Hardly a sign of a dying forum.
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Post by DarkSamus on Jan 7, 2019 20:36:05 GMT 10
Just to solidify when I said in my last post...
20 new members have joined the forums in the past 24 hours. 03 hours ago... 20. The new member idontknow has joined this forum. 04 hours ago... 19. The new member WadeLightning has joined this forum. 06 hours ago... 18. The new member thephenomenal0ne has joined this forum. 07 hours ago... 17. The new member sitox has joined this forum. 07 hours ago... 16. The new member blakrang3r has joined this forum. 08 hours ago... 15. The new member anaboliclocust has joined this forum. 09 hours ago... 14. The new member necronkonemesis has joined this forum. 10 hours ago... 13. The new member alissonrr2 has joined this forum. 11 hours ago... 12. The new member morfeorp has joined this forum. 11 hours ago... 11. The new member sintaro has joined this forum. 13 hours ago... 10. The new member ngiworld has joined this forum. 15 hours ago... 09. The new member lerver has joined this forum. 17 hours ago... 08. The new member phac has joined this forum. 19 hours ago....07. The new member zenwth has joined this forum. 20 hours ago... 06. The new member dragathor43487 has joined this forum. 20 hours ago... 05. The new member pijoy21 has joined this forum. 21 hours ago... 04. The new member yakamoz has joined this forum. 21 hours ago... 03. The new member merrimen has joined this forum. 21 hours ago... 02. The new member helly2019 has joined this forum. 23 hours ago... 01. The new member darkangel has joined this forum.
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Post by Johnny Valentine on Jan 8, 2019 12:03:48 GMT 10
Sorry, but "new people joining" every day does not really mean that the forum is alive, most of them will NEVER "like or comment" any topic, they are just takers. a lot of people seek for advice or tutorials to learn how to mod but they are ignored, (I know this because some of them asked advice from me, but I am just a reskinner the only thing I can do is to point at the right people to ask) I do think the forum is not dead but is diying...
New mods cannot be released cuz newbies based those over other peoples mods and since the original creators are gone people cant ask for permission or they just don´t want to let other people released their work over theirs, there is no way to bring new stuff without breaking the rules if new members do not know how to make a new mod from scratch
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Post by Mr.Curious on Jan 8, 2019 12:29:33 GMT 10
Sorry, but "new people joining" every day does not really mean that the forum is alive, most of them will NEVER "like or comment" any topic, they are just takers. a lot of people seek for advice or tutorials to learn how to mod but they are ignored, I do think the forum is not dead but is diying...
New mods cannot be released cuz newbies based those over other peoples mods and since the original creators are gone people cant ask for permission or they just don´t want to let other people released their work over theirs, there is no way to bring new stuff without breaking the rules if new members do not know how to make a new mod from scratch
I totally disagree with the last paragraph you wrote (it hardly makes sense to me actually) but can agree with another point you made To say people are being ignored isnt 100% accurate. There are some mod creators who seem quite disinterested in being helpful, and would rather show attitude which is something I find saddening. This behaviour is not indicative in itself of a dying forum though, rather, it shows a lack of respect coming from certain individuals. Perhaps the forum morale (or lack of), is what you are observing. I'm not sure how to address this kind of behavior other than to counter it with positive action. As for myself & what I chose to contribute on a daily basis, I have been VERY active on the RE4 sections of this site, posting lots of tutorials and sharing all the data I have collected regularly. I actually just wrote a 150 page document to accompany the new RE4UHD toolset which took me months to research & write. I have always made myself available to others (even when they posted past the cutoff date for necro posts). I could care less how old a post is, if someone needs help, im here. I answer all PMs and do my best to point people in the right direction. So the truth is that people are not getting ignored, at least not in the sections I am active in. As for the forums dying, I agree that this can not be measured by the amount of new users but I believe can be measured by the amount of activity. I dont know what those stats are, but for the most part these mods are getting older by the day so I would expect that the interest is going to eventually fade. I dont think there is much anyone can do about that other than doing what Son of Persia did which is to create new tools. If the interest is going to be in RE2 Remake then the coders need to get ready to make some new tools... The only way modding will stay active is if coders make tools for current content. Otherwise things get less & less relevant and people lose interest. My two cents. Happy Modding!
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Post by ToCool74 on Jan 8, 2019 13:12:21 GMT 10
Really it comes down to a two way street in regards to modders not being helpful as well as members not posting, true we do get a daily amount of AT LEAST 10 members per day but most of the time those members aren't replying, I know personally what affects morale among some modders and causes them to not want to release their mods or help is because they don't feel appreciated enough given are very large member numbers but lack of activity by them to give thanks and thus by the time some of those members start asking for help those same modders may have already feel slighted and thus don't feel like helping, its gotten to the point that I was considering making a topic to appeal to the new large number of members joining up to show their support by liking more modders post or giving a simple thank you in their topics to boost the morale of the modders because lets face it the biggest issues here are lack of new member caring enough to reply/like, modders morale, and over all interest in modding as a whole given that we have been modding these same games for years now.
As I said in my previous post interest in modding as a whole will hopefully pick back up when RE2 remake comes out and we get coders who are interested in taking the time to make tools for us to get started modding, and as I layed out above newer members can start to give a little give and take by taking the little bit of time it takes to like their favorite moddres post or encourage them, having said all this there ARE new members who do this and there ARE modders such as Mr Curious,JTeghjous, Gearge,Ironsoul,Razor (just to name a few) that do take the time to not only release content but also help new members so we should not make it seem like NO ONE is getting help and that no new members are doing their part to pick up morale.
Now I stil maintain the forum is not dying it is more diminished from what it used to be, I've seen dying forums where content as well as activity is far apart but we have new members joining up, we have new mods being released, we have daily activity, and we have modders who help new members, just because everything is not completely booming on every corner of the board does not equate to dying because if that where the case we would have dyed many years ago since as I also pointed out in my previous post we have had members saying the forum is dying literally for the past 10 years at this point.
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Post by JTeghius Kittius on Jan 9, 2019 1:39:08 GMT 10
Really it comes down to a two way street in regards to modders not being helpful as well as members not posting [...] I know personally what affects morale among some modders and causes them to not want to release their mods or help is because they don't feel appreciated enough given are very large member numbers but lack of activity by them to give thanks and thus by the time some of those members start asking for help those same modders may have already feel slighted and thus don't feel like helping, its gotten to the point that I was considering making a topic to appeal to the new large number of members joining up to show their support by liking more modders post or giving a simple thank you in their topics to boost the morale of the modders because lets face it the biggest issues here are lack of new member caring enough to reply/like, modders morale, and over all interest in modding as a whole given that we have been modding these same games for years now. this is exactly something I've experienced as a modder. while I don't take requests (and never really have), unlike some more "well praised" modders. I've always modded the things I like myself like Rachael and Tofu. and quite a few of the mods I made have very few downloads. some even have single digits downloads. (I use mediafire for my mods and it shows me the number of downloads) I must also be honest and say I also have some mods that even though they have rather few replies/likes on the forums here they have over 2.000 downloads from my mediafire. But I'd be lying if I said that I haven't been to a point where I considered not uploading mods anymore, and to be frank there's only two reasons I have uploaded and released most of those mods: - I uploaded them so that I can redownload my mods in case of a new PC and not having access to my source files - The small amount of users that did like/reply saying they like my work. Recently I've become more active on the Discord group for this forums and started taking up replying to modding help questions on there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2019 3:33:10 GMT 10
I think most of the modders just lost interested to modding anymore but i have some solutions here: 1-Let them have there own patreon to increase the interest to modding 2-Don't bump thread should be removed so more members can thank the modders 3-More modding tutorial are needed so can a lot of members join modding
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Post by Night Furious on Jan 9, 2019 7:24:12 GMT 10
Why not give the opportunity to introduce a donation button for modders? Perhaps this would be an additional incentive for them if people want to support someone’s work more than just say thanks. I mean, it will not be a prerequisite to get a mods, only on a voluntary basis. Mods still will have to be distributed freely.
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