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Post by Zealot Tormunds on Jan 15, 2019 7:02:11 GMT 10
I've been messing around a bit, trying to make a fixed camera mod in C#. The cameras change automatically depending on Leon's position, but I haven't found the memory address for the rotation so when the camera changes it still has the previous rotation and the player has to move it around. If someone finds the correct address for rotation, I might be able to make this. Not for the full game of course but it'd be a cool experiment to try doing it for the demo lol. A video (it's not edited so I'm sorry if it looks like crap):
Also occasionally it blocks me from opening doors for some reason? So I don't know how factible this is hahaha. Oh a cool thing happened while I was trying to figure out the addresses. The game bugged and teleported the props from outside to the main hall. I thought it looked kinda cool:
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Post by EvilLord on Jan 15, 2019 7:07:07 GMT 10
I've been messing around a bit, trying to make a fixed camera mod in C#. The cameras change automatically depending on Leon's position, but I haven't found the memory address for the rotation so when the camera changes it still has the previous rotation and the player has to move it around. If someone finds the correct address for rotation, I might be able to make this. Not for the full game of course but it'd be a cool experiment to try doing it for the demo lol. A video (it's not edited so I'm sorry if it looks like crap):
Also occasionally it blocks me from opening doors for some reason? So I don't know how factible this is hahaha. Oh a cool thing happened while I was trying to figure out the addresses. The game bugged and teleported the props from outside to the main hall. I thought it looked kinda cool: ROFL nice job mate this looks interesting x3
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Post by rubyofblue on Jan 15, 2019 14:27:34 GMT 10
RPD looks nice with a bit of green lmao
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Post by danfromumbrella on Jan 16, 2019 2:03:37 GMT 10
I believe it's an unlockable and if that's the case a mod won't even be necessary. 10 more days to find out.
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Post by motherofass on Jan 20, 2019 21:31:04 GMT 10
I believe it's an unlockable and if that's the case a mod won't even be necessary. 10 more days to find out. It would've been advertised already if that's the case. This is a feature that would only move more pre-orders, which is all companies care about now.
That WIP mod looks amazing. The only problem is the game doesn't feel like RE2 with the new lighting. It's more like Silent Hill, having to rely on a flashlight. Maybe someone can play around with the lighting, but either way it's better than nothing
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Post by danfromumbrella on Jan 21, 2019 12:52:44 GMT 10
I mean people who said that modding it will be difficult I'm not sure I believe it anymore so even IF it's not in or not coming post DLC. I have a feeling a nearly completed or completed version of a fixed mode will be in the final game's code. It's basically an open secret at this point that they worked on a fixed mode of sorts and actually did a lot of extensive work like Ret was saying. So it may be easier than originally thought when we all thought it was just tested at the very beginning than immediately abandoned.
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Post by sargetitan on Jan 31, 2019 19:16:31 GMT 10
*In fact, the Fixed Camera Angles has already been achieved by "Enveloping Sounds", a YouTube channel. -I think that the Cheat Engine was used to achieve it, but it is not impossible in one way or another. 😎👍
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 1:09:51 GMT 10
Okay, I'm gonna put it bluntly. I have NOTHING against Fixed Camera Angles or Tank Controls even, but this level of desperation over them both in a game that is UNDENIABLY MEANT for Over the Shoulder has got me pushed to my own limit at watching this?
But how are you going to do Ada's sequence, how are you going to properly shoot a zombie in the head? Take out the knees, legs and feet? Aim where you NEED to aim in a boss battle to take it down? I'm sorry? But either hate the game and leave it be, or come to accept it because even if a mod forces the camera angles like you all want so badly, then well.. Think about the following.
If I recall correctly, the last time I saw this done LEGITIMATELY, the game started glitching, like outside environments indoors, or hell, indoor environments outside, the locations merging. And are you REALLY going to be satisfied if you have to be pulled out of the fixed cameras and back into over the shoulder JUST for the aiming? The auto aim is here, like people theorized could also HELP with fixed camera angles, but the hitboxes are no longer like that of the zombies from the original PS1 game, just shooting in the direction doesn't do anything, and with the VERY specific hitboxes now for headshots, knees, feet, torso, arms, hands, and more, it's just nearly IMPOSSIBLE.
The only reason he got around that first zombie is literally because it was as simple as shooting him in the chest continuously, enough to put him down to get through the intro. That, and I'm almost sure they kept pausing and re-recording footage after scene cuts because otherwise, the environment would've been glitching out like it did before, along with UI even. But the video just being a "mod concept" should say enough without me having to point it out.
There are a LOT of technical difficulties to figure out, and I literally saw someone who wanted fixed camera angles say that go back to the OTS for shooting solution could do the trick, but it kind of makes the fixed camera angles pointless. (Presumably because it pulls you back out of what the fixed cameras managed to put you in to begin with.)
Again, unless these difficulties are going to be figured out? Not to mention the NIGHTMARE that is trying to figure out how to keep the environments from merging, freaking out, and for all unknown intents and purposes, possibly breaking the game later down the road, This will NEVER successfully happen? And I don't think there's people THIS DESPERATE enough for it, but if there are, then color me mindless because I SWEAR it's not that worth it. The developers THEMSELVES said the fixed camera angle (and First Person) perspectives just didn't fit this game a long time ago.
Are there ANY plans to accept that anytime soon? Or are most of the people still holding out going to keep chasing a distant dream, putting their hopes into modders, or even hopefully waiting for Developers to put the feature in anyways? I'd say with ALL OF THIS in mind? Unless it's coming as a future patch, (or god knows, DLC), which no matter what are BOTH so far HIGHLY unlikely based on how much they've built this game up for Over-the-Shoulder? It is NOT happening.
I said I was going to be blunt, but I hope that nowhere in this I offended at all, but this is just how it is in my eyes. Either give up, and feel disappointed in the reimagining/hate on what capcom has done, or go on and accept the game for what it is, any of the following possibilities, because again, this just isn't possible in my eyes.
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Post by EvilLord on Feb 1, 2019 1:20:42 GMT 10
*In fact, the Fixed Camera Angles has already been achieved by "Enveloping Sounds", a YouTube channel. -I think that the Cheat Engine was used to achieve it, but it is not impossible in one way or another. 😎👍 ah well thats just a well edited video xD im not sure that Fixed camera angles are possible mate sorry =\ Unless someone works on a actual coding thingy which somehow lets you have it its not possible so far xD
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Post by danfromumbrella on Feb 1, 2019 14:04:02 GMT 10
We know Capcom's worked on it. There's enough rumors out there that Capcom worked extensively on it and in the end just wanted the focus to be on OTS as that was their MAIN focus from the beginning. If that's the case why wouldn't people hope that the modding community can somehow tap into that and let fans experience something they haven't had since RE0? We all have different desires with mods, we all have things we get excited for....this isn't something people are making up. If we had no knowledge of capcom working on it this wouldn't even be a thing right now but we do have knowledge of it. There were rumors that fixed was going to be an unlockable. Whether this is true or not it clearly means the work went into something that at the very least was complete. The only way to find out the truth of it is if it's discovered in the coding. Moral of the story, let's not attack each other. Let's see what happens... I don't know why people get bent out of shape over things like this. You don't get the appeal? You don't think it's worth it? You don't think it's possible? That's fine but why do you care so much to the point where it almost sounds like it offends you that someone MIGHT care? Just let people hope for the things they want to hope for. Personally speaking i'd love a fixed mod, is it possible? I'm not acting like I begin to know but that doesn't mean I am not hoping for it. It also doesn't mean I think RE2 Remake is crap because it's OTS. I have fond memories of the original and like some i'd love to experience it in a similar way if possible. As the great EASY ALLIES say : Love and Respect.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2019 0:37:44 GMT 10
We know Capcom's worked on it. There's enough rumors out there that Capcom worked extensively on it and in the end just wanted the focus to be on OTS as that was their MAIN focus from the beginning. If that's the case why wouldn't people hope that the modding community can somehow tap into that and let fans experience something they haven't had since RE0? We all have different desires with mods, we all have things we get excited for....this isn't something people are making up. If we had no knowledge of capcom working on it this wouldn't even be a thing right now but we do have knowledge of it. There were rumors that fixed was going to be an unlockable. Whether this is true or not it clearly means the work went into something that at the very least was complete. The only way to find out the truth of it is if it's discovered in the coding. Moral of the story, let's not attack each other. Let's see what happens... I don't know why people get bent out of shape over things like this. You don't get the appeal? You don't think it's worth it? You don't think it's possible? That's fine but why do you care so much to the point where it almost sounds like it offends you that someone MIGHT care? Just let people hope for the things they want to hope for. Personally speaking i'd love a fixed mod, is it possible? I'm not acting like I begin to know but that doesn't mean I am not hoping for it. It also doesn't mean I think RE2 Remake is crap because it's OTS. I have fond memories of the original and like some i'd love to experience it in a similar way if possible. As the great EASY ALLIES say : Love and Respect. I'm not attacking, but the thing is, these are just rumors. If this was something that made it to the final game as a fact, I'm pretty sure modders would've already activated it, seeing as I'm pretty sure that was something else that modders (and OTHER people generally, like in this thread) wanted. Also, I'd like to mention that those images of an alleged fixed camera angle, the first person to post anything like that (and also feel as real as it did) CAME OUT and admitted it was fake already, just repeating in the case that you haven't heard. They posted the link to the imgur album, and explained the method of what all they went through to make it as believable as possible.
Also, I'm NOT attacking, I made it VERY clear at the start of it that I have NOTHING against Fixed Camera Angles (& Tank Controls), but the issue I have is that if it's not possible? It's NOT possible. There are TOO many things that I'm pretty sure that I've pointed out that makes almost EVERYTHING about this impossible.
Even more so, I don't get the appeal? Quite frankly, I don't. I don't think it's worth it? I DON'T. I don't think it's possible? Without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. You say it's fine, but then if I keep explaining my FAIRLY LOGICAL reasonings behind why I feel this way, that's offending someone that might care? I'm the type of person to let people hope for the things they hope for? But to be VERY honest here? This is just hope that, in this particular situation? At this point, it's just as false and desperate as it's going to get.
Also, good on you for not thinking it's crap because it's OTS, wish I could say the same for plenty of other people who've made it clear they feel that way. But as for the fond memories of the original, and wanting to experience it in a similar way? I.. I don't understand because again, as I detailed, every single aspect of the game is intended FULLY for Over the Shoulder. But is this so serious that you just HAVE to try to basically re-do the ENTIRE game, and after 4 years basically, AGAIN?
The only reason I feel so strongly about this is because, I truly? Do not care if people want it, but the problem is that that was BEFORE the game came out, and regarding unlockables, what the hidden CAMERA_SELECT function meant & those pictures of a Camera Angle <Fixed Camera> selection, it was uncertain. But just prior to it, the camera angles were debunked by the same person who posted them who came out directly and said they faked everything, and HOW they faked everything, and CAMERA_SELECT also could've referred to something else altogether, that's still unknown sure, but also, if it were an unlockable, it CLEARLY would have been found by now. The only unsure thing left is the CAMERA_SELECT.
But you see, rumors alone aren't be all end all on if it even referred to fixed camera angles or not, but that part doesn't matter at this point, post-game release. This all just leads back to my problem with this entire thing? With 2/3 of the hopeful facts CLEARLY debunked, one being HEAVILY uncertain, and on top of that literally EVERY reason I described behind why this just will NOT work unless you go to the most EXTREME of extreme lengths of modding that I REALLY ALSO just HONESTLY HOPE that no one goes through that much effort for in the first place?
WHY is there still hope for this? Like I said before, I am the type to let someone hope for things they want, this was something I told someone else myself before the game came out, and that was for a demo to come out prior to the game release. And luckily that did. (Although on an annoying timer..) But that was thousands of times more likely to happen than this, and look at the current outcome.
I PROMISE you that I mean no ill intent, but for god sakes, when there are TOO MANY CLEAR ISSUES with this? I'd imagine that that's the cue to just put the desire to rest before it drags out for too long. I got fortunate again with the demo RIGHT as the last drop of hope in me for it finally almost got done drying up, and then it happened. By all means, I would LOVE to be proven wrong? But as far as I'm concerned, there's literally 0.1% chance of that happening, and I'm willing to even bet on the chance that it doesn't happen.. Again, I truly mean no ill intent, but really, if you think about these things in detail, with logic, and even nostalgia rose colored glasses off if you have those, it just.. doesn't seem like it's going to happen. (I'm pretty much a broken record by this point so, I rest my case.)
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Post by danfromumbrella on Feb 2, 2019 2:10:46 GMT 10
We know Capcom's worked on it. There's enough rumors out there that Capcom worked extensively on it and in the end just wanted the focus to be on OTS as that was their MAIN focus from the beginning. If that's the case why wouldn't people hope that the modding community can somehow tap into that and let fans experience something they haven't had since RE0? We all have different desires with mods, we all have things we get excited for....this isn't something people are making up. If we had no knowledge of capcom working on it this wouldn't even be a thing right now but we do have knowledge of it. There were rumors that fixed was going to be an unlockable. Whether this is true or not it clearly means the work went into something that at the very least was complete. The only way to find out the truth of it is if it's discovered in the coding. Moral of the story, let's not attack each other. Let's see what happens... I don't know why people get bent out of shape over things like this. You don't get the appeal? You don't think it's worth it? You don't think it's possible? That's fine but why do you care so much to the point where it almost sounds like it offends you that someone MIGHT care? Just let people hope for the things they want to hope for. Personally speaking i'd love a fixed mod, is it possible? I'm not acting like I begin to know but that doesn't mean I am not hoping for it. It also doesn't mean I think RE2 Remake is crap because it's OTS. I have fond memories of the original and like some i'd love to experience it in a similar way if possible. As the great EASY ALLIES say : Love and Respect. I'm not attacking, but the thing is, these are just rumors. If this was something that made it to the final game as a fact, I'm pretty sure modders would've already activated it, seeing as I'm pretty sure that was something else that modders (and OTHER people generally, like in this thread) wanted. Also, I'd like to mention that those images of an alleged fixed camera angle, the first person to post anything like that (and also feel as real as it did) CAME OUT and admitted it was fake already, just repeating in the case that you haven't heard. They posted the link to the imgur album, and explained the method of what all they went through to make it as believable as possible.
Also, I'm NOT attacking, I made it VERY clear at the start of it that I have NOTHING against Fixed Camera Angles (& Tank Controls), but the issue I have is that if it's not possible? It's NOT possible. There are TOO many things that I'm pretty sure that I've pointed out that makes almost EVERYTHING about this impossible.
Even more so, I don't get the appeal? Quite frankly, I don't. I don't think it's worth it? I DON'T. I don't think it's possible? Without a shadow of a doubt in my mind, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. You say it's fine, but then if I keep explaining my FAIRLY LOGICAL reasonings behind why I feel this way, that's offending someone that might care? I'm the type of person to let people hope for the things they hope for? But to be VERY honest here? This is just hope that, in this particular situation? At this point, it's just as false and desperate as it's going to get.
Also, good on you for not thinking it's crap because it's OTS, wish I could say the same for plenty of other people who've made it clear they feel that way. But as for the fond memories of the original, and wanting to experience it in a similar way? I.. I don't understand because again, as I detailed, every single aspect of the game is intended FULLY for Over the Shoulder. But is this so serious that you just HAVE to try to basically re-do the ENTIRE game, and after 4 years basically, AGAIN?
The only reason I feel so strongly about this is because, I truly? Do not care if people want it, but the problem is that that was BEFORE the game came out, and regarding unlockables, what the hidden CAMERA_SELECT function meant & those pictures of a Camera Angle <Fixed Camera> selection, it was uncertain. But just prior to it, the camera angles were debunked by the same person who posted them who came out directly and said they faked everything, and HOW they faked everything, and CAMERA_SELECT also could've referred to something else altogether, that's still unknown sure, but also, if it were an unlockable, it CLEARLY would have been found by now. The only unsure thing left is the CAMERA_SELECT.
But you see, rumors alone aren't be all end all on if it even referred to fixed camera angles or not, but that part doesn't matter at this point, post-game release. This all just leads back to my problem with this entire thing? With 2/3 of the hopeful facts CLEARLY debunked, one being HEAVILY uncertain, and on top of that literally EVERY reason I described behind why this just will NOT work unless you go to the most EXTREME of extreme lengths of modding that I REALLY ALSO just HONESTLY HOPE that no one goes through that much effort for in the first place?
WHY is there still hope for this? Like I said before, I am the type to let someone hope for things they want, this was something I told someone else myself before the game came out, and that was for a demo to come out prior to the game release. And luckily that did. (Although on an annoying timer..) But that was thousands of times more likely to happen than this, and look at the current outcome.
I PROMISE you that I mean no ill intent, but for god sakes, when there are TOO MANY CLEAR ISSUES with this? I'd imagine that that's the cue to just put the desire to rest before it drags out for too long. I got fortunate again with the demo RIGHT as the last drop of hope in me for it finally almost got done drying up, and then it happened. By all means, I would LOVE to be proven wrong? But as far as I'm concerned, there's literally 0.1% chance of that happening, and I'm willing to even bet on the chance that it doesn't happen.. Again, I truly mean no ill intent, but really, if you think about these things in detail, with logic, and even nostalgia rose colored glasses off if you have those, it just.. doesn't seem like it's going to happen. (I'm pretty much a broken record by this point so, I rest my case.)
Okay look again I hope you don't take my words wrong I think it's important to be nice to each other despite difference of opinion. I get you feel it's pointless, I get you feel it's not possible but let it be...ya know? You might feel this way others might not. Let people have hope for whatever they want, it won't hurt you and look it's certainly not hurting the game. The game is critically smashing it and commercially too. Let purist fans hope for something, there's nothing wrong with that. If it doesn't happen they'll eventually have to move on if it does happen then everyones happy. You know? Let's just drop it and be peaceful with all fans and celebrate the great game and hope everyone finds some joy in it in their own way.
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Post by sargetitan on Feb 2, 2019 8:35:45 GMT 10
*In fact, the Fixed Camera Angles has already been achieved by "Enveloping Sounds", a YouTube channel. -I think that the Cheat Engine was used to achieve it, but it is not impossible in one way or another. 😎👍 ah well thats just a well edited video xD im not sure that Fixed camera angles are possible mate sorry =\ Unless someone works on a actual coding thingy which somehow lets you have it its not possible so far xD *Well.., if with edited you are trying to say that it is fake, I can clarify that it is incorrect, since the same person that published confirmed that to me directly, also that it was not easy him to achieve it & that jim2point0 used the Cheat Engine make this possible.(I apologize in case of using bad English)
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Post by larmen on Mar 13, 2019 2:35:56 GMT 10
ah well thats just a well edited video xD im not sure that Fixed camera angles are possible mate sorry =\ Unless someone works on a actual coding thingy which somehow lets you have it its not possible so far xD *Well.., if with edited you are trying to say that it is fake, I can clarify that it is incorrect, since the same person that published confirmed that to me directly, also that it was not easy him to achieve it & that jim2point0 used the Cheat Engine make this possible.(I apologize in case of using bad English) I think that a user of this site named Crazy Potato or something like that, has already uploaded videos about similar modifications with fixed camera for this RE 2 reboot to youtube, in which the same also use the CE to make them possible.
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Post by lastjedi on Jun 21, 2020 14:27:51 GMT 10
i dont believe it was a limitation since they remade resident evil for the gamecube and they still used the fixed camera angle.for people like me this is extremely important since i cant play any resident evil games past resident evil 1 remake.i need the fixed camera because all the new resident evil games give me motion sickness.the camera is all over the place.i think the first resident evil game i noticed where i get sick was resident evil 4.and every game from then on i cant play of resident evil.i can play some 3rd person games but not the resident evil 3rd person games.they still give me motion sickness from resident evil 4 on.
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